America's 'elite' troops (For You depleting Hackworth fans)

The lefty Brits just love Hack!

Reading thru the posts it seems more & more FReeper types are turning on my man Hack. Let me say this in no uncertain terms, Hack has killed more Chicoms, North Koreans and VC in hand to hand combat than most of you dweebs have years on this planet. Hack is privy to a great deal of feedback coming from military types who respect his honesty in calling attention to the many discrepancies that exist in todays military. One branch of the service he has always had a high regard for is the Marine Corps, my alma mater ... for good reason, the Corps has maintained a rigorous standard which has not been compromised. Semper Fi to an outstanding soldier ... Colonel Hackworth.

Has this man gone friggin crazy? Maybe I missed something but he seems to have done a major flip-flop from a few years ago. I used to overlook the feminine type voice as just the way he talks...but lately I am not so sure?

The guy is starting to give me the creeps!!

I even heard him take up for Clinton on Hannity & Butthead one night.

Most decorated soldier?
Hello, remember that Audie Murphy guy?

Sorry, but Hack is now more interested in the disease syndromes supposedely encountered by the military in Desert Storm. He is devoted to the cause.

I remember Audie Murphy. And yes, indeed, he holds the title even yet.

I will never forget an interview of him in which he said that he was not a hero. When the interviewer asked him why, he said that he had always kept his union railroad dues up to date because he feared the movie industry and his fame.

Must I remind you that it was mostly RESERVES that won Desert Storm.

That's news to me. I do know that the reserves played a large part in transporting men and machines to the Gulf, but the professionals (read active duty) fought that war.

but the professionals (read active duty) fought that war.

Are you going to seriously, on a public board, say that only active duty military were engaged in combat? LOL

Are you going to seriously, on a public board, say that only active duty military were engaged in combat? LOL

Of course not, but the overwhelming majority of the combat forces certainly were active duty. That would tend to conflict with your claim that it was mostly reserves that won Desert Storm. It's a free country, so I suppose it is your right to attempt to rewrite history.

So what percentage is "overwhelming"? I am laughing so hard, really.

The proof is going to be in the pudding, now isn't it, boys and girls? Either Rumsfield or Hackworth is right.

We know that Rumsfield did an end-run around a bunch of the generals who didn't want to do the war in Afganistan his way. They are the disgruntled types who are feeding Hackworth, the NY Times and the Washington Post info, that frankly, as a former USAF guy, I find treasonous.

I'll put my money on Rumsfield.

Right on Marine! Couldn't have said it any better myself!

So what percentage is "overwhelming"? I am laughing so hard, really.

All right, if it's a history lesson you want, it's a history lesson you'll get. The following is a list of all of the major U.S. ground combat forces that fought in Desert Storm: 1st Cavalry Division, 1st Infantry Division (Mechanized), 1st Armored Division, 1st Marine Division, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, 3rd Armored Division, 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized), 82nd Airborne Division, 101st Airborne Division, and the U.S. Army Special Forces.

Hmmm, not a Reserve or Guard unit in the bunch. Still laughing?

Hackworth is just a worthless hack.

It looks like of the 540,000 troops deployed. Approximately 228,000 were reserve or IRR units.

Richard Marcinko can boast about just as much of a record but doesn't poo poo our guys during war time.

This was the exact same crap thrown out by arm chair generals before the Iraq War - they said the US Air Force and Navy/Marine pilots didn't have combat experience so they wouldn't be effective - they said the M1 Tank couldn't frive hundreds of miles accross the sand dunes - they said Saddam would be toast within months after we kicked his ass !

All wrong !

As for Hack he keeps trying to compare war hardened comanders, Generals and NCO's from a time when we had many deadly wars. It's not a fair comparasion and the one thing that will make our troops as good is real live battle !

We know that Rumsfield did an end-run around a bunch of the generals who didn't want to do the war in Afganistan his way. They are the disgruntled types who are feeding Hackworth, the NY Times and the Washington Post info, that frankly, as a former USAF guy, I find treasonous.
Then Hack is serving a good role -- he's highlighting that a lot of the military 'leaders' are just Clinton-era suckups and Rumsfield's cleaned their clocks.

Army Guard and Reserve Units
activated as part of
Operation Desert Shield/Storm
Major Combat Units

1st Bn, 108th Armor Georgia

1st Bn, 121st Infantry (Mechanized) Georgia

1st Bn, 141st Field Artillery Louisiana

1st Bn, 156th Armor Louisiana

1st Bn, 198th Armor Mississippi

1st Bn, 230th Field Artillery Georgia

2nd Bn, 121st Infantry (Mechanized) Georgia

2nd Bn, 156th Infantry (Mechanized) Louisiana

2nd Bn, 198th Armor Mississippi

3rd Bn, 141st Infantry (Mechanized) Texas

3rd Bn, 156th Infantry (Mechanized) Louisiana

48th Infantry Brigade (Mechanized) Georgia

1st Bn, 142 Field Artillery Bde. Arkansas

2nd Bn, 142 Field Artillery Bde. Arkansas

142d Field Artillery Brigade Arkansas

148th PAD Idaho

152d Armored Bn Alabama

155th Armored Brigade Mississippi

256th Infantry Brigade (Mechanized) Louisiana

E Troop, 348 Armored Cavalry Regiment Georgia

Other Units

Alabama

1241 Adjutant General Co. Guard

1207th Quartermaster Co. Guard

1207th U.S. Army Hospital Reserve

314th Public Affairs Det. Reserve

322nd Mil. History Det. Reserve

318th Chemical Co. Reserve

907th Chemical Det. Reserve

123rd Combat Support Co. Guard

715th Combat Support Co. Guard

1208th Quartermaster Co. Guard

1659th Transportation Det. Guard

490th Chemical Det. Reserve

851st Combat Support Group Reserve

173rd JAG Det. Reserve

81st Transportation Det. Reserve

287th Transportation Co. Reserve

1167th Transportation Det. Guard

731st Combat Support Bn. Guard

226th Combat Support Co. Guard

778th Combat Support Co. Guard

638th Ordinance Co. Guard

1128th Transportation Co. Guard

377th QM Co (POL OPS) USAR AL

781st TRANS Co USAR AL

1208th QM Co (Water Pur) NGR Lineville, AL

129th Clearing Co. Guard

109th Evacuation Hospital Guard

440th Ordinance BN Guard (disbanded)

1135th QM Supply Company Guard

Arkansas

148th Evacuation Hospital Guard

299th Engineer Co. Reserve

296th Medical Co. Guard

374th Medical Co. Reserve

1122nd Transportation Co. Guard

Arizona

348th Transportation Co. Reserve

2221st Quartermaster Co. Guard

2220th Transportation Co. Guard

855th MP Company Guard

222 Transportation Co Guard

2222 Transportation Co. Guard

403rd Combat Support Hospital Reserve

California

419th Quartermaster Bn. Reserve

316th Quartermaster Co. Reserve

2668th Transportation Co. Guard

224th Transportation Det. Guard

1113th Transportation Co. Guard

343rd Medical Detachment (RA) Reserve

270th M.P. Company Guard

Colorado

1157th Transportation Det. Guard

1158th Transportation Det. Guard

HHC 43rd CSG Ft. Carson ,Co.

517th Medical Company Guard

759th M.P. Battalion Ft. Carson

Connecticut

142nd Medical Company Guard

344th Military Police Co. Reserve

1205th Railroad Unit Reserve

District of Columbia

207th JAG Det. Reserve

547th Transportation Co. Guard

380th Combat Support Co. Guard

372nd Military Police Bn. Guard

Delaware

736th Supply Services Battalion HQ Guard

Florida

3220th U.S. Army Garrison Reserve

337th Ml. Bn. Reserve

160th Military Police Bn. Reserve

351st Military Police Co. Reserve

810th Military Police Co. Reserve

351st Adjutant General Co. Reserve

320th Military Police Co. Reserve

146th Transportation Det. Reserve

322nd Quartermaster Det. Reserve

138th Aerial Surveillance Co. Reserve

743rd Combat Support Co. Guard

325th Combat Support Co. Guard

325th Combat Support Co. Guard

873rd Quartermaster Det. Reserve

347th Medical Det. Reserve

348th Med Det Reserve

Georgia

461st Adjutant General Co. Reserve

3299th Dental Det. Reserve

Operations Center Augmentation Reserve

3297th Army Hospital Reserve

433rd Chemical Det. Reserve

337th Ml Bn. Reserve

1015th Combat Support Co. Reserve

145th Medical Det. Reserve

190th Military Police Co. Guard

1148th Transportation Co. Guard

988th Combat Support Co. Reserve

Third U.S. Army Reserve

165th Quartermaster Co. Guard

48th Armored Brigade Guard

Illinois

1138th Military Police Co. Guard

419th Transportation Det. Reserve

416th Engineer Command Det. Reserve

300th Adjutant General Det. Reserve

1544th Transportation Co. Guard

339th Transportation Det. Reserve

1244th Transportation Co. Guard

724th Transportation Co. Reserve

387th QM BN (POL TERM OPS) USAR Danville, ILL

1644th Transportation Co. Guard

Indiana

838th Transportation Det. Guard

209th Combat Support Co. Reserve

209th Combat Support Co. Reserve

Iowa

1133rd Transportation Co. Guard

4249th Military Police Det. Reserve

915th Transportation Co. Reserve

209th Medical Company (Clearing) Guard

134th Medical Company (Ambulance) Guard

134th S&S Company Guard

Kansas

170th Heavy Equip. Maint. Co. Gaurd

13th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

129th Transportation Co. Reserve

842nd Quartermaster Co. Reserve

475th Engineer Det. Reserve

467th Engineer Det. Reserve

410th Evac Hospital(now deactivated) Reserve

Kentucky

3346th Dental Det. Reserve

137th Transportation Det. Guard

217th Quartermaster Det. Guard

2123 Transportation Det. Guard

133d (Mobile) Public Affairs Detachment Guard

807th Surgical Hospital (MA) Reserve

1st Bn 623d FA 8" SP Guard

76th Heavy Equipment Co ???

Louisiana

1086th Transportation Co. Guard

872nd Medical Det. Reserve

1190th Deployment Control Reserve

1191st Transportation Terminal Reserve

1192 Transportation Terminal Reserve

1090th Transportation Det. Guard

1093rd Transportation Co. Guard

321st Logistics Center Reserve

1083rd Transportation Co. Guard

3673rd Comp. Service Co. Guard

256th Infantry Brigade Guard

Company A 527th Engineering Battalion Gaurd

527th EN BN (Cbt Hvy) Guard

258th Military Police Co Ft Polk.

433rd Military Police Company Reserve

344th Combat Support Co. Reserve

Maine

619th Transportation Co. Reserve

3620th Transportation Det. Guard

Maryland

372nd Military Police Co. Reserve

352nd Civil Affiars Command Fort Meade

417th Transportation Det. Reserve

1176th Transportation Terminal Reserve

200th Military Police Co. Guard

290th Military Police Co. Guard

400th Military Police Bn. Reserve

200th Transportation Det. Reserve

202nd Transportation Det. Reserve

Massachusetts

46th JAG Det. Reserve

704th Transportation Det. Guard

324th Adjutant General Reserve

1058th Transportation Co. Guard

972 Military Police Company Guard

91 OPCON 1st ID Guard

772nd Military Police Company Guard

181 Engineer Company Guard

Michigan

5064th U.S. Army Garrison Guard

460th Combat Support Co. Guard

1009th Transportation Det. Guard

1461st Transportation Co. Guard

180th Transportation Co. Reserve

144th Military Police Co. Guard

210th Military Police BN Guard

1776th Military Police Co. Guard

1073rd Maintenance Co Guard

146th MP Bn Guard

Minnesota

109th Combat Support Co. Guard

70th M.P. Company Reserve

Mississippi

1181st Transportation Terminal Reserve

114th Military Police Co. Guard

365th Combat Support Det. Reserve

479th Ordinance Co. Reserve

193rd Transportation Bn. Guard

162nd Military Police Co. Guard

112th Military Police Bn. Guard

386th Transportation Co. Reserve

296th Transportation Co. Reserve

173rd QM Co (POL OPS) USAR Greenwood

786th TRANS Co NGR Greenwood

Missouri

624th Engineer Det. Reserve

858th Combat Support Det. Reserve

1138th Military Police Co. Guard

93rd Evacuation Hospital Ft. Leonard Wood

1221st Trans. Co. Guard

Montana

370th Quartermaster Bn. Reserve

159th Command Support Group Reserve

Nebraska

1012th Combat Support Co. Reserve

172nd Transportation Co. Reserve

561st Support Group Reserve

403 MP PW Camp Reserve

New Jersey

253rd Transportation Co. Guard

328th Transportation Det. Guard

144th Supply Company ?

404th Civil Affairs Battalion Reserve

New Mexico

281st Transportation Co. Reserve

52nd Engineer Battalion. Reserve

New York

211th Military Intel. Co. Reserve

1302nd Military Police Det. Reserve

10th Transportation Det. Guard

139th Transportation Det. Reserve

142nd Transportation Det. Reserve

423th Medical Det. Reserve

318th Transportation Agency Reserve

401st Civil Affairs Co. Reserve

414th Civil Affairs Co. Reserve

719th Transportation Co. Guard

623rd Transportation Co. Reserve

134th Maint. Co. Guard

145th Maint. Co. Guard

102nd Maint. Co. Guard

206th MP Co. Guard

365th Evac

107th MP Co. Guard

800th Military Police Brigade Reserve

401st Civil Affairs Company Reserve

North Carolina

991st Transportation Co. Reserve

1450th Transportation Co. Guard

540th Quartermaster Det. Guard

121st Transportation Det. Guard

1454 Transportation Co. Guard

431st Quartermaster Det. Reserve

805th Military Police co. Reserve

211th Military Police Co. Guard

398th Combat Support Co. Guard

385th Transportation Det. Reserve

315th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

210th Military Police Co. Guard

171st Combat Support Co. Reserve

337th Ml Bn. Reserve

382nd Public Affairs Det. Guard

3274th Army Hospital Reserve

29th Transportation Det. Reserve

95th RAOC Guard

319th PAD Reserve

805th MP Company Reserve

North Dakota

132nd Quartermaster Co. Guard

134th Quartermaster Det. Guard

131st Quartermaster Det. Guard

308th Engineer Det. Reserve

311th Evacuation Hospital Reserve

Ohio

2361 Mobile Signal Comm. Center Reserve

79th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

1001st Combat Support Co. Reserve

758th Combat Support Co. Reserve

828th Combat Support Co. Reserve

837th Combat Support Det. Reserve

870th Combat Support Det. Reserve

342nd Military Police co. Reserve

1487th Trans Company Ohio Guard

350th Evacuation Hospital Reserve

838th M.P. Company Guard

324th M.P. Company Guard

251 TT Co. ???

656th Trans Co. Reserve

Oklahoma

2120th Combat Support Co. Guard

1245th Transportation Guard

1345th Transportation Guard

1st BN 158 FA Guard

120th Med Bn Guard

445th Military Police Company Guard

44th Evac Hospital Reserve

Oregon

206th Transportation Det. Guard

2186th Light Equipment Maintenance Co. ?

Pennsylvania

1185th Transportation Terminal Reserve

442nd Combat Support Co. Reserve

635th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

298th Transportation Co. Reserve

228th Transportation Det. Guard

475th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

347th Quartermaster Co. Reserve

121st Transportation Co. Guard

131st Transportation Co. Guard

14th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

3623rd Maintenence Co. Guard

300th Field Hospital ?

304th Civil Affairs Group Reserve

402nd MP PW CP Reserve

Puerto Rico

394th Quartermaster Bn. Reserve

311th Quartermaster Co. Reserve

219th Quartermaster Det. Guard

276th Combat Support Co. Reserve

430th Combat Support Co. Reserve

Rhode Island

443th Civil Affiars Co. Reserve

115th MP Company Guard

119th MP Company Guard

118th MP Battalion Guard

South Carolina

265th Quartermaster Det. Guard

596th Transportation Det. Reserve

3271st Army Hospital Reserve

3273rd Army Hospital Reserve

413th Chemical Co. Reserve

187th JAG Det. Reserve

32nd Military Police Co. Guard

747th Transportation Det. Guard

371st Chemical Co. Reserve

450th Ordinance Co. Reserve

941st Transportation Co. Reserve

120th Rear Area Operation Center Reserve

941st Trans Co USAR So. Carolina

251st Evacuation Hospital Guard

1st Battalion 263d Armor Guard

South Dakota

57th Transportation Det. Guard

747th Transportation Det. Guard

452 Ordnance Co. Reserve

323 Chemical Company Reserve

740th Transportation Company Guard

1742nd Transportation Company Guard

109th Engineer Group Guard

730 Medical Company Guard

Tennessee

130th Combat Support Ctr. Guard

176th Combat Support Det. Guard

3397th Army Garrison Reserve

776th Combat Support Co. Guard

251st Combat Support Co. Guard

1175th Quartermaster Co. Guard

360th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

212th Engineer Co. Guard

382 Medical Det. Reserve

1032d Trans Co NGR Bristol, TN

332nd Medical Brigade Reserve

1174th Transportation (MTP) Guard

401st MP Camp Reserve

844th Engineer Battalion (CBT HVY) Reserve

155th Engineers Guard

1st Bn 181st FA 8" SP Guard

176th Mt. Bn, HHD Guard

377th Combat Support Hospital Reserve

118th Public Affairs Detachment Guard

Texas

4005th Army Hospital Reserve

327th Chemical Co. Reserve

302nd Military Police Co. Reserve

601st Transportation Det. Reserve

541st Transportation Det. Reserve

1104th Transportation Det. Guard

340th Combat Support Co. Reserve

383rd Quartermaster Co. Reserve

149th Adjutant General Co. Guard

15th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

644th Transportation Co. Reserve

217 Evac. Hosp. Guard

114th Medic Hosp. Reserve

89th Military Police Brigade Guard

Utah

120th Quartermaster Det. Guard

142nd Military Intel. Bn. Guard

Vermont

131st Engineer (CSE) CO. Guard

Virginia

91st Transportation Det. Reserve

145th Transportation Det. Reserve

986th Medical Det. Guard

1033rd Transportation Co. Guard

229th Military Police Company Guard

363 Military Police Company ???

Washington

144th Transportation Det. Guard

907th Engineer Platoon Reserve

50th General Hospital [1000 beds] Reserve

513th Transportation Company

22nd Transportation Detachment

497th Transportation Company

80th Ordnance Battalion, HHC

542nd Maintenance Company

West Virginia

328th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

313th Military Police Det. Reserve

646th Quartermaster Co. Reserve

388th Quartermaster Det. Reserve

Wisconsin

432nd Civil Affairs Group eserve

304th Transportation Det. Reserve

343rd Transportation Det. Reserve

826th Ordnance Co. Reserve

107th Combat Support Co. Guard

340th Transportation Det. Reserve

1122nd Transportation Det. Guard

890th Transportation Co. Reserve

12th Medical Det (Prev Med) Reserve

32d Military Police

395th ORD CO DS/GS(WSNBAA)

LOL