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Do Moslems, Christians and Jews Believe in the Same God?"
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | November 29, 2002 | Serge Trifkovic

Posted on 12/30/2002 6:04:44 AM PST by SJackson

One in a series of excerpts adapted by Robert Locke from Dr. Serge Trifkovic’s new book, The Sword of the Prophet: A Politically-Incorrect Guide to Islam

One of the clichés endlessly repeated by those who would conceal the dangerous potentialities inherent in Islam is that Moslems "believe in the same God" as Christians and Jews. But this is a severe distortion of the truth, for what Moslems fundamentally believe is that they know the true nature of the God that Judaism and Christianity tell lies about. Lies for which Christians and Jews will be punished in hell. The fact that Moslems share Levantine monotheism with us thus makes them more, not less, antagonistic to us on a religious level. Hopes for reconciliation on the grounds of common monotheism, as opposed to a realistic "good fences make good neighbors" civilizational détente, are wishful thinking.

The widespread belief in the non-Muslim world that Islam accords respect to the Old Testament and the Gospels as steps in progression to Mohammad’s revelation is mistaken. Modern Muslim apologists try to stress the supposed underlying similarities and compatibility of the three faiths, but this is not the view of orthodox Islam. Muhammad’s insistence that there is a heavenly proto-Scripture and that previous "books" are merely distorted and tainted copies sent to previous nations or communities means that these scriptures are the "barbarous Koran" as opposed to the true, Arabic one. (Let’s leave aside for a minute the puzzling question of how any degree of "distortion" of the Koran could produce either an Old or a New Testament.) The Tradition also regards the non-canonical Gospel of Barnabas, and not the New Testament, as the one that Jesus taught. The Koran alone is the true word of God and sets aside all previous revelations.

While the influence of orthodox Christianity upon the Koran has been slight, apocryphal and heretical Christian legends are the second most important original source of Islam. In other words, Islam contains an awful lot that Christians have deliberately rejected over the years as religiously unsound. There are also influences of Sabaism, of Zoroastrianism, and of ancient Arabian paganism, including the divine sanction for the practices of polygamy and slavery. The reports in both the Koran and the Hadith (authoritative traditional sayings) concerning paradise, the houris, (virgins) the youths, the jinn (genies) and the angel of death have been directly taken from the ancient books of the Zoroastrians. Zoroastrianism also originated the story that on the Day of Judgment all people will have to cross a bridge stretched across hell leading to paradise on which the unbelievers will stumble and fall down to hell.

The biblical stories been passed on to Muhammad presumably from Jewish and Christian sources, but it is probable that he never read the Old or the New Testament. Those narratives had deeply impressed him, but being incomplete and imprecise, they gave his imagination free rein. Of the books of the Old Testament he knew only of the Torah or Pentateuch and the Book of Psalms, while the Scriptures he treats collectively as "the Gospels." Muhammad took these narratives as they were given to him, and their use in the Koran amounts to random, approximate and often badly misunderstood reproduction of the Talmudic traditions and the Apocrypha. Moreover, they are of course devoid of their original contexts and of the spiritual message of the original.

Many Old Testament stories are changed beyond recognition, and can be treated as a "source" only in the most general sense. Abraham did not offer Isaac, but Ishmael, as a sacrifice. "Haman" was pharaoh’s chief minister, even though the Haman known to Jews lived in Babylon one thousand years later. Moses was picked from the river not by his sister but by his mother. A Samaritan was the one who molded the golden calf for the children of Israel and misguided them, even though Samarians arrived only after the Babylonian exile. The accounts of Moses’ life are sketchy and say nothing of his character, descent, the time he was sent as a prophet, the purpose of his mission, and where, how and why he appointed Aaron as his deputy. It does not relate the argument between them and the people of Israel, which is crucial to the story. The story of Noah reflected Muhammad’s dilemmas and difficulties rather than Noah’s mission, and even the names of the idols that Noah warns against are Arabic.

The Koran makes reference to Jesus, Mary and events related to them, but with a critical distinction. It explicitly denies that Jesus was crucified: Allah made the Jews so confused that they crucified somebody else instead who had the likeness of Christ: "They slew him not nor crucified but it appeared so unto them." Muslims claim that an impostor by the name of Shabih was crucified, and he resembled Jesus in his face only. It seems illogical to those who count "proud" as one of the "99 most beautiful names of Allah" that Jesus, who was capable of raising the dead and of healing the blind and the leper, willingly submitted to the cross and failed to destroy the Jews who intended to hurt him. Islam rejects the whole concept of the crucifixion, claiming that it is against reason to assume that Allah would not forgive man’s sins without the cross: to say so is to limit his power: "He forgives whom he will, and he chastises whom he will."

The denial of the Trinity is also explicit: Allah begets not, i.e. he is no Father; and was not begotten, that is, he is no Son; and no one is like him, which means he is no Holy Spirit. "They are infidels who say, Allah is the third of three." But "Isa" is not the Son of Allah, only a special prophet, and the Christians’ contrary claim shows how they are perverted. The Christians are guilty of blasphemy because of their belief in the "trinity" of Allah, Mary, and Jesus. The "real" Jesus was a righteous prophet and a good Muslim who paved the way for the final prophet, Muhammad himself.

There is a wishful myth in circulation among liberals that Islam accords respect to all "people of the book," i.e. Christians and Jews in addition to Moslems. While Islam indeed accords them a higher standing than it does to polytheists like Hindus (pace the question of whether Hinduism properly understood is truly polytheistic) or African animists, this hardly amounts to respect. Of all the "people of the book" only Muslims can attain salvation. Jews’ and Christians’ refusal to acknowledge Mohammed as the messenger of God dooms them to unbelief and eternal suffering after death. Christians are mortal sinners because of their belief in the divinity of Christ, and their condemnation is irrevocable: "God will forbid him the garden and the fire will be his abode."

Unlike the Christian faith in God revealing Himself through Christ, the Koran is not a revelation of Allah – a heretical concept in Islam – but the direct revelation of his commandments and the communication of his law. It has been said that the Koran, to a Muslim, is not the perfected Gospel, it Christ, the Word Incarnate. This is a somewhat tenuous metaphor, however, not a valid parallel: Christian God "comes down" and seeks man because of His fatherly love. The Fall cast a shadow, the Incarnation makes reconciliation possible. Allah, by contrast, is cold, haughty, unpredictable, unknowable, capricious, distant, and so purely transcendent that no "relationship" is possible. He reveals only his will, not himself. Allah is "everywhere," and therefore nowhere relevant to us. He is uninterested in making our acquaintance, let alone in being near to us because of love. We are still utterly unable to grasp his purposes and all we can do is what we have to do, to obey his command.

The Koran claims to be the fulfillment of a religious design which was imperfectly revealed to the Jews and to the Christians. It is the crowning synthesis, the final word. But viewing the matter objectively, leaving aside for a moment the question of the actual truth of the book, it seems hard to see how the Koran is a synthesis of anything. The way in which Christianity makes sense – again, simply as a logical matter and leaving aside the truth of it – as a fulfillment of Judaism, is clear even to the unbeliever. But the Koran’s claim is singularly implausible. Non-Muslim commentators fail to see in what way is the Koran an improvement over, or advancement on, the moral teaching, language, style, or coherence of the Old and New Testament. It is looks, feels, sounds like a construct entirely human in origin and intent, clear in its earthly sources of inspiration and the fulfillment of the daily needs, personal and political, of its author.

Finally, one cannot ignore that whatever mildly friendly things the Koran may say about Judaism and Christianity in its early part, the late Surras also signify the final break with the Jews and Christians, who are fiercely denounced. The Muslims must be merciless to the unbelievers but kind to each other. "Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them." War, not friendship, is mandatory until Islam reigns everywhere. Muslims are ordered to fight the unbelievers, "and let them find harshness in you." They must kill the unbelievers "wherever you find them." The punishment for resistance is execution or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides. By the stage in his life during which these Surras were written, Muhammad was no longer trying to convert his hearers by examples, promises, and warnings; he addresses them as their master and sovereign, praising them or blaming them for their conduct, giving laws and precepts as needed. His raw dogmatism stands, finally, naked of all pretence.

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Serge Trifkovic received his PhD from the University of Southampton in England and pursued postdoctoral research at the Hoover Institution at Stanford. His past journalistic outlets have included the BBC World Service, the Voice of America, CNN International, MSNBC, U.S. News & World Report, The Washington Times, the Philadelphia Inquirer, The Times of London, and the Cleveland Plain Dealer. He is foreign affairs editor of Chronicles.


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1 posted on 12/30/2002 6:04:44 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Do Moslems, Christians and Jews Believe in the Same God?"

Umm. No.

2 posted on 12/30/2002 6:12:30 AM PST by Autodidactic
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To: SJackson
Do Moslems, Christians and Jews Believe in the Same God?"

Nope.

3 posted on 12/30/2002 6:23:24 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: SJackson
Jews believe in God, but remember Him only as He first introduced Himself to them.

Christians believe in God, and have been introduced by Him to His Son, who -by the way- was a Jew who spent most of His adult life working in the family business as a carpenter.

moslems are the homicidal, ignorant and deluded thralls of one of Satan's minor demons.

4 posted on 12/30/2002 6:25:35 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: DWSUWF
Dante wrote he saw Mohammad in the pits of Hell.
5 posted on 12/30/2002 6:32:31 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Autodidactic
Sure they do.

Same God, three different "views" of Him.

If someone told you of the "Almighty Powerful One" and described him as being loving, compassionate, just, the Creator of the universe, and one who wears khaki pants, it would be the same God. The DESCRIPTION and ATTRIBUTES may be different (and incorrect) but the single "higher power" is the same.

If I told you there is a divine being and I was chosen to write His book and presented you with a 25 page "bible", it would be the same God. The "bible" would be incorrect, as would my description and view, but I'd actually be correct in saying there was this divine being. I just happen to distort, twist, and fuzzy up the description and attributes.

The real question is who has the most accurate description, attributes, and connection to God.

Remember, the description of what you believe God is does not DEFINE what God really is. WE, as created beings, DO NOT CREATE GOD BY OWN DEFINITION. Sure, we have scripture which helps to define, but I truely believe that it doesn't come close -- words aren't enough. Just because you have a certain belief doesn't mean God fits that mold because YOU believe so.

So, yes, we believe in the same God. We just have different beliefs about what that God consists of (attributes, teachings, etc.)
6 posted on 12/30/2002 6:33:13 AM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: SJackson
There's a harsh dose of truth; Mohammed was an opportunist who married a rich widow, took many wives [down to nine years old!] and broke his treaty oath when it suited him. He is no holy man. And his book for the arabs is a mishmash,
no wonder their society is as well.
7 posted on 12/30/2002 6:36:24 AM PST by metacognative
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To: SJackson
If there really is only one true God, how can it be otherwise? I happen to believe in one, all-powerful God, that has no problem with what people on earth believe. If you pray to God, God hears.
8 posted on 12/30/2002 6:38:24 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: 1stFreedom
Admit it. You are none of the above.
9 posted on 12/30/2002 6:38:27 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: SJackson
NO! Allah is childless, while YHWH the god of Jews and Christians has all of us in general, Jesus in particular, and perhaps other worlds too all over, that are hinted at in the Scriptures...

"other sheep have I, that are not of this fold..."

In fact Allah is just an alias for Satan, the devil-god of Arabia, red in tooth and claw, bloodthirsty, savage, lusting after the beheading of Jews and Christians.

Muhammad himself was a common criminal, a civilized society would have hanged him before he was out of adolescence.

10 posted on 12/30/2002 6:41:15 AM PST by crystalk
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To: 1stFreedom
So, yes, we believe in the same God


No. Islam teaches that you go to heaven only if your good deeds outnumber your bad deeds. Christianity teaches that Jesus death on the cross paid for the sins of mankind and faith in Christ as Savior will get you to heaven.
Furthermore, Christianity holds the belief that God is triune;Father, Son, Holy Spirit. No way do Muslims and Christians believe in the same God.
11 posted on 12/30/2002 6:43:25 AM PST by tutstar
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To: 1stFreedom
If God, or any good being, wrote that hateful, bitter, psychopathic little book called Koran...

than I would be better off worshipping the banana I am eating right now.

12 posted on 12/30/2002 6:43:44 AM PST by crystalk
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To: tutstar
As 1stfreedom stated, beliefs vary widely. Beliefs do not define God. There is only one God, for everyone. How could it not be?
13 posted on 12/30/2002 6:46:18 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
If you do not accept the Bible as inerrant then anyone's version of God would be accurate. So then all you would have is everyone's 'belief' about who/what God is and have created a humanist 'one size fits all God' and that is 360 degrees from what the Bible says about God.

So tell me.....whose 'one size fits all God' created the earth you live on?
14 posted on 12/30/2002 6:52:36 AM PST by tutstar
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To: SJackson
Which God?

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Kali, Lakshmi, Nandi, Sarasvati, Dyaush-pita, Prithivi mata, Vayu, Parjanya, Surya, Varuna, Agni, Indra, Soma, Ushas, Yama, Adityas, Aswini, Rudras, Vasus, Visvedevas, Abassi, Ab Kin Xoc, Abraham, Adroa, Acheloos, Adroanzi, Aegle, Ah Chuy Kak, Ah Cun Can, Ah Puch, Zygia, Zaltys, Zanahary, Zephyros, Mu, Muchalinda, The Silver Tree, Yogath Hob, Na May Hob, Thomtain Hob, Fate, Djandri Hob, The Sleeping Entity, Olanigan, Wemusa, Marush Hob, Catemar, Kalendor Hob, Timballayamu, Symbaga, Banthaln, Gnaman, Zaalaac, Kalahari, Celestian, Tuanghor Hob, Saalah, Ouikka, Tenebrion, Nemed Hob, Korint Hob, Tsothoggua, Jergal Zadh, Keambiroiro, Jehovah, Elohim, Atho (Ahti), Akka (Maa-Emoinen, Mader-Akka, Rauni), Hiisi, Ilma, Ilmatar (Lounnotar), Ilmarinen, Jumala (Mader-Atcha), Kalma, Kipu-Tytt, Kuu, Leib-Olmai, Louhi, Loviator, Mielikki, Mother of Metsola, Num, Numitorem, Paiva, Pellervoinen, Rauni (Maan-Eno, Ravdna, Roonikka), Tapio, Tuoni, Ukko, Yambe-Akka, Hina-ke-ka, Hina-ku-wa'a, Hina-puku-'ai, 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Hurakan, Iatiku and Nautsiti, Idlirvirisong, Ilamatecuhtli, Illapa, Ilyap'a, Inti, Ioskeha, Ipalnemohuani, Isakakate, Itzamná, Itzananohk`u, Itzlacoliuhque, Itzli, Itzpapalotl, Ix Chebel Yax, Ixbalanque, Ixchel, Ixchup, Ixmucane, Ixpiyacoc, Ixtab, Ixtlilton, Ixtubtin, Ixzaluoh, Iztaccihuatl, Iztacmixcohuatl, Jaguar Night, Jaguar Quitze, Katsinas, Kan, Kan-u-Uayeyab, Kan-xib-yui, Kanati, Ketchimanetowa, Ketq Skwaye, K'in, Kianto, Kilya, Kinich Ahau, Kinich Kakmo, Kisin, Kun, Loha, Loo-wit, Macaw Woman, Macuilxochitl, Maho Peneta, Mahucutah, Malinalxochi, Malsum, Mam, Mama Cocha, Mama Quilla, Manco Capac, Mani'to, Manu, Masaya, Master of Winds, Mayahuel, Menahka, Metztli, Mexitl, Mictecacihuatl, Mictlan, Mictlantecuhtli, Mitnal, Mixcoatl, Mulac, Nacon, Nagual, Nahual, Nakawé, Nanabojo, Nanabush, Nanahuatzin, Nanautzin, Nanih Waiya, Nanook, Naum, Negafok, Nesaru, Nishanu, Nohochacyum, Ockabewis, Oklatabashih, Omacatl, Omecihuatl, Ometecuhtli, Onatha, Opochtli, Oshadagea, Pachacamac, Pachamama, Pah, Paiowa, Pana, Patecatl, Pautiwa, Paynal, Pinga, Qaholom, Qakma, Quetzalcoatl, Quootis-hooi, Ragno, Rukko, Sedna, Selu, Shakuru, Shilup Chito Osh, Shrimp House, Sio Humis, Supai, Talocan, Tarhuhyiawahku, Tawa, Tawiscara, Tecciztecatl, Teoyaomqui, Tepeu, Tepeyollotl, Teteoinnan, Tezcatlipoca, Tieholtsodi, Tirawa atius, Tlacolotl, Tlahuixcalpantecuhtli, Tlaloc, Tlaltecuhtli, Tlauixcalpantecuhtli, Tlazolteotl, Tohil, Tonantzin, Tonatiuh, To'nenile, True Jaguar, Tsentsa, Tsichtinako, Tunkan Ingan, Tzakol, Tzitzimime, Uchtsiti, Ueuecoyotl, Uitzilopochtli, Ukat, Unk, Urcaguary, Viracocha/Huiracocha, Voltan, Wah-Kah-Nee, Wakan-Tanka, White Buffalo Woman, Windigo, Winonah, Wisagatcak, Xaman Ek, Xibalba, Xilonen, Xipe Totec, Xiuhcoatl, Xiuhtecuhtli, Xiuhtecutli, Xmucane, Xochipili, Xochiquetzal, Xocotl, Xolotl, Xpiyacoc, Xpuch and Xtah, Yacatecuhtli, Yaluk, Yebaad, Yeba Ka, Yeitso, Yemanja, Yemaya, Yiacatecuhtli, Yolkai Estsan, Yum Kaax, Zaramama, Zipaltonal, Zotz, ....

15 posted on 12/30/2002 6:57:39 AM PST by Consort
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To: 1stFreedom
Since we can't wrap out material minds around the ominpresence, omniscience and omnipotence of God, we see Him as He manafests Himself in His attributes. The attributes of the Islamic god has nothing to do with with the Judeo-Christian God.

I don't think God condones murder for those that criticise writings about Him, nor do I think God forgives institutional breaking of all but one or two of His original ten commandments.

16 posted on 12/30/2002 7:02:56 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: stuartcr
I guess you then believe that all the referred "false gods" in the Old Testament are really all the same god as well?
17 posted on 12/30/2002 7:03:24 AM PST by TheBattman
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To: Jimer
Nice list! I sort of like Nanook! Fighting over God(s) is one of the stupid hominoid activities. It makes the believer feel so superior to others who do not believe as he does.
18 posted on 12/30/2002 7:07:14 AM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: SJackson
bump
19 posted on 12/30/2002 7:10:21 AM PST by VOA
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To: pgkdan
Who knows if it is the same God. *YOU* certainly do not.

The whole point isn't who believes in the correct God

The point is,

how do you treat people who do not believe the same things you do? how do you treat your fellow human beings in general?

Belief in God isn't a contest to see who believes in a better God. The contest is all internal and personal -- you don't recieve salvation whatever that is, by belonging to the right group...you recieve it by your actions in everyday life

If you believe that group membership is what is important, then you have missed the whole point -- a fundamentalist christian thus becomes just as wrong as a fundamentalist muslim or a fundamentalist hindu.

the paths to the Creator are legion and different for every person.

20 posted on 12/30/2002 7:14:10 AM PST by chilepepper
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