Posted on 12/30/2002 5:37:04 AM PST by SJackson
What about the above paragraph doesn't indicate to you that illegals are costing you, and all of us, huge portions of our tax money? These statistics are similar to those from the Center for Immigration Studies who also estimate that every illegal takes $55,200 more from the system than they contribute.
(Notice the article never uses the word "Hispanic"; instead, "immigrant" is code for Hispanic.)
Maybe this is due to the fact that the author, as are most people, is as not concerned where the illegals come from, but is more concerned that taxpayers money is being spent on those who break and enter into our country. It doesnt matter if the illegal is from Mexico, Canada, or Sweden, but the fact that they are law breakers who leach of the American taxpayer through the use of social services should be of concern to you and every law-abiding taxpayer. They then have the unmitigated gall to turn around and call the American citizen a racist to even suggest these law breakers should be sent home.
immigrants are more than likely a net PLUS for the Texas economy.
Where are your statistics for this, or is this merely your own feel-good opinion? The above article, numerous CIS researched reports and numerous other articles have statistics and researched studies that prove otherwise.
But the notions expressed and hinted at in this article should be passionately rejected.
What notions are those? If you are referring to the fact that all illegals who break and enter into America, whose first act of coming to this country is a criminal act, who suck a the teat of the American taxpayer through social services, who threaten American citizens living on the border, should all be sent back to where they came from, then these notions should be passionately supported, not rejected.
No. The article stated "Immigrants", both legal and illegal. Just because you wish to believe that the word "immigrant" is some type of code word for "Hispanic" is your own problem.
Yes the majority of immigrants are Hispanic, and Hispanics are more likely to use the welfare system, the article and study are speaking of all immigrants, not just Hispanics, as you wish to believe. All immigrants, both legal and illegal use the welfare system, but illegal "Hispanics" use it more than others.
As B4 stated, the majority of illegal Hispanics send their cash back to Mexico. Over 90% of Mexico's Gross National Product, comes from cash sent home by it's legal and illegal immigrants in the US.
There have been many studies done, and all will tell you that illegal immigration is a net lose to our economy, whether it is "Hispanic" illegals or other illegals.
Thank you
Much less. Low-rent apartment complexes don't pay nearly enough property & school tax to cover the expenses incurred by their tenants in school, medical, road costs, etc.
Wow, if true! Is it really that high, 90%? Seems too high what with Mexico being an oil exporter, a tourista destination, suger cane, and a lot else. But I don't know, just asking.
If it's anywhere near 90% or even over 50%, I can see why Fox will do anything to help his Illegals invade and nothing to stop them.
BTW, it's a very different story on Mexico's southern border. It's protected by deadly military force.
This article is out of the same Trent Lott school of thought that served him so well. Should our borders be respected? Of course. But the notions expressed and hinted at in this article should be passionately rejected.
Are you trying to race bait with that comment?
Wrong.
California relies upon income taxes, which the illegals don't pay, while Texas relies on sales taxes and property taxes, which the illegals DO pay.
Yeah, I know they usually rent, but the landlord pays the property tax - and where do you think he gets the money to do that?
This discussion is wide open with so many points to be made that the result will likely be a tit-for-tat tangled mess.
So allow me to simplify the discussion: immigrant bashing is a moral/political loser. Just ask Pete Wilson. Wasn't he supposed to be president by now, hmmm?
I repeat, any notion that Texas' $5 billion shortfall is due to immigrants should be passionately rejected. Why not just blame senior citizens? They probably cost more and contribute far less; such a notion is equally absurd.
Specious reasoning = bad politics/policy.
So quit blowing smoke up our ass with your "immigrant bashing is a moral/political loser"! A lawbreaker is a lawbreaker everywhere except amongst politicians where they see a potential voter.
Wonderful! It is nice to see our neighbor prosper. Sure beats all the direct foreign aid payments we make to non-NAFTA-neighbors across oceans while recieiving no goods or services in return.
It also pleases me to note that the $13 billion Mexicans sent home was made the American way-- they earned it.
I'm sure Arturo works hard to please your perspective; it's good for his business in your market no doubt. Down here he could just hire those folks looking for honest work without having to call them "wetbacks."
The food would probably be better, too:)
Why do I care what the political fallout would be Im not a politician, just a taxpayer. Besides according to recent polls the vast majority of Americans support both legal & illegal immigration control. Tom Tancredo was overwhelmingly reelected.
You should stick w/ Texas politics, because in CA prop. 187 was passed by 60% of the voters.
You are also incorrect that this is a moral loser. We are a country that adheres to the rule of law. Anyone who supports law breakers is a moral loser, not the other way around.
I repeat, any notion that Texas' $5 billion shortfall is due to immigrants should be passionately rejected.
You have absolutely no facts to backup you claim, while there are irrefutable facts to prove that illegals are costing the taxpayers billions of dollars, not to mention posing a huge security risk. (Right now the FBI is looking for 19 possible terrorists who are illegals.)
Breaking the law to enter the country is NOT the American way.
I doubt if most of these illegals earned their money the American way either. Most probably worked off the books, paid no social security taxes, no income taxes, no state taxes... Because they are willing to work for sub-minimum wages, no benefits and little recourse to their employer, they depress the wage rate for legal American workers. Why do you think businesses want to hire illegals - they are cheaper, they have no benefits & they can be fired for virtually no reason w/ little legal liability.
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