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To: madg
Macro: the govt has no business outlawing what people do in their bedrooms (except the obviously immoral things like non-consential sex -especially by use of stupifying pharmaceuticals-, child sex, sex-4-sale, multi-wife and multi-husband, STD spreading glee/malice, cult brain washing sex and sexual harassment from those with 'office power' and 'casting couch' syndrome, snuff sex, ad nausem). Societal quality control is what -in the big picture- the govt does, okay? Get over it else you will go feral like the anarchists and libertarians. Mentally ill and/or criminal persons who endanger themselves and others must be 'restrained'.

Micro: your personal reliance on experts identifying or classifying sexual aberration percentiles and pronouncing opinions that do or do not agree with your personal prediliction is a feature of this era. Your vice was removed from the list of pathologies on a political basis but you fail to acknowledge it and ignore anything that is not orthodox gay propaganda. You say it was only a pathology by mistake and that this mistake was degrading to your fellow perversionists, so it had to be removed regardless. You want the other posters to prove why that pathology should be listed in the first place. The other 'non-faith' side of the posts asks why a patently unnatural and disturbed lifestyle was removed without any scientific study showing that it was not a pathology... you stay in your bedroom and chant 'I can't hear you'. You log off after reading the thread and continue your degrading and unnatural acts in the bedroom ignoring the world outside. You want God to be kept outside or put in the closet. You want Him to say 'I can't hear you, I can't see you'. Filibuster and froth at the mouth but you cannot change your DNA and you cannot silence your own conscience. Accept it. The APA can't, this thread can't, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance can't, the FRC can't, and I can't. Only you can deal with the deep down you.

Back to macro: I mentioned before that this type of thing is a feature, a mark, of our era. Others like you with all manner of other vices do precisely the same thing: collecting supportive articles and straws of hope. They are elated with a new report or new book this year because it validly and 'scientifically' vindicates their vice, they are disgusted and dismayed with an equally 'scientific' new report next year. We have seen it all over and over. And in the longview, these people need these secular crutches and screens to bolster their various depths of denial. Your posts sound typically confident and self-assured just as many with vices are... but God knows your inner need to be humble and at peace, and to dwell with Him: to be righteous. One day I pray that this is your choice. Your choice for now, to support -or even to personally indulge your vice- at bathouses or public toilets or exclusive west-hollywood private functions or quiet weekends with a 'partner' (of consential age) on your yacht or whatever is killing 'you' deep down. Please repent of it and go with God -and with life. Clean house!

353 posted on 01/16/2003 8:41:11 PM PST by rocknotsand
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