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To: Nix 2; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; babylonian; Fred Mertz; American in Israel; Crazymonarch; ..
>Tikkun Olam Pagans are people who misrepresent Judaism as nothing more and nothing less than the pursuit of the liberal social action political agenda, all in the name of a suitably misrepresented Tikkun Olam.

Thanks for posting this.  I was unaware of it.  It is in some ways akin to the deception being foisted on the Christian church:

...by demonically led church growth gurus to win "people groups", (countries, cultures, cities and  communities, etc.) into a socialistic system of christianized collectivism known as "dominion theology" using the tactics and manipulation of the Hegelian Dialectic or "consensus process".
More here 308 ~ 296 and here:  Paul Proctor - archives

The enemy never gives up.  Unfortunately, too many people believe the lies instead of their Bibles/Torah.

15 posted on 12/28/2002 4:15:38 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
Howdy ... This was a very perceptive article.

Was thinking about the 'Havdala prayers, where we ask for lots of silver ....'

Thought that it was a personal affront to the Lord to ask or beg for money, gold, nicer housing, bigger cars, more stereos, valuable stocks, high dividends, and more time to enjoy all the booty. Frankly, I would find it boorish to seek such things, or such help, when really GOOD people (people who are better, stronger, and have more faith than I) are suffering, in severe pain, and are dying.

What is you personal feeling about 'Havdala' type prayers? Is it permissible to pray to win the lottery, based on a promise to feed and clothe the poor?

21 posted on 12/28/2002 4:56:54 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: 2sheep; xzins; MissAmericanPie
Thanks so much for the flag - I would have surely missed this very excellent post. I am familiar first-hand with some reconstructionist; their religion, although in the name of Judiasm, is indeed another religion of THEIR invention and choosing. It is not the Torah of YHWH. Thanks again for bringing this to my attention.
51 posted on 12/29/2002 10:14:23 AM PST by TrueBeliever9
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