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Plasma TV boosts Gateway picture - (42 " HDTV flat-panel display for $3,000)
The San Diego Union Tribune ^ | December 28, 2002 | Bruce V. Bigelow

Posted on 12/28/2002 1:23:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Plasma TV boosts Gateway picture

Low-price strategy, booming sales make some analysts enthusiastic

By Bruce V. Bigelow
STAFF WRITER

December 28, 2002


When Richard Doherty learned that Gateway, the build-to-order computer maker, was introducing a 42-inch plasma television for the holidays, he thought, "Oh, that'll be a good adjunct to their stores."

When he found out the Poway company would sell the giant flat-panel display for $3,000, Doherty thought, "Oh my God. They're going to change everything."

Though precise sales numbers on the plasma TV haven't been released, it's apparent that the computer maker has scored a coup – at least with analysts like Doherty.

Perhaps more importantly, Gateway might now have a product with the potential for sales growth not seen since the mid-1990s, when runaway personal computer sales drove double-digit revenue growth for the company.

As new government standards for broadcasting digital TV signals go into effect in coming years, some analysts predict the demand for plasma TVs could grow by 70 percent a year through 2008.

"We are constantly looking at the type of new product categories that made us so successful in the PC business," said Gateway's Gui Kahl, a digital solutions manager who guided the plasma TV launch.

In terms of current sales, Kahl and other Gateway officials will say only that holiday sales of the new TV have been running "significantly ahead" of their own internal forecast, whatever that may be.

Yet market researchers like Doherty, who works for the Envisioneering Group of Seaford, N.Y., say they're impressed, and that's a yuletide blessing for Gateway, which has been struggling to shake off losses for the past two years.

"The $3,000, 42-inch plasma TV turned a lot of heads here at Aberdeen and in the marketplace," echoed Peter Kastner, who heads the Boston-based Aberdeen Group's digital consumer technology practice. "The reason is the price point, plain and simple."

With Gateway's plasma TV priced at $2,999, analysts said the company is underselling similar-sized products by 30 percent to 50 percent.

The new TV uses plasma – a mixture of gases – arrayed in tiny gas-filled cells sandwiched between two thin sheets of glass. Using advanced electronics, an electrical current stimulates each cell, or pixel, to produce light and color – creating a vivid, steady picture.

Gateway does not make the flat-panel TV – which is thin enough to hang on a wall – and some analysts believe the original supplier is Sampo of Taiwan. In any event, the timing of Gateway's entry was impeccable.

"Retailers are telling us the Gateway entry this fall has cut in half the sales of similar-sized plasma TVs on both coasts," Doherty said.

Doherty also was enthusiastic about the consistent approach Gateway takes in educating consumers about digital TV on its Web site and in the company's nationwide chain of 272 stores.

Unlike big box consumer electronics retailers, Gateway also ensures that the digital electronic products it sells will work together when consumers get home.

"The second-biggest problem for high-definition TV in America, after confusion over cable and broadcast standards, has been the horrible experiences at consumer electronics retail stores," Doherty said. "Gateway makes sure that everything plays together."

In the last three months of 2002, Doherty estimates, total sales of plasma TVs in the United States could reach 25,000 – equivalent to all previous plasma TV sales. Gateway "clearly stands a chance to get up to 20 percent of that," Doherty added.

Still, other analysts caution those are small numbers – even for a high-priced product.

"It is a 'wow' item, and as prices come down, they will become more popular," said Michelle Abraham, a multimedia analyst for In-Stat/MDR near Phoenix. "But I don't see where they ever move into the mainstream in the next 10 years. It's always going to be more expensive than a comparably sized TV."

Josh Bernoff of Boston-based Forrester Research agreed, saying, "Even at $2,999, there aren't very many people willing to buy" the product.

He also doubts that sales of plasma TVs will come anywhere close to 70 percent compounded annual growth.

Nevertheless, Bernoff conceded that Gateway's sales approach can be an advantage as consumers who want their own home theaters "get into that zone where it gets complicated to hook up."

Besides, Bernoff added, "one of the reason retailers have big, fancy expensive products is that it gets people into the store so they can see all the other neat, fancy equipment that's on sale."

In the end, Bernoff said, Gateway's tactic makes sense for a company that is heavily dependent on consumer sales.

"They're just looking for other stuff they can sell," he said. "Clearly anyone who only sells computers is going to have trouble right now, and diversification is the only solution."


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: hdtv; technology; television
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
interesting thread... the guys right.

Lucas is right also.

Digital is the way to go.

The guys who control the analog production houses are the liberal democrats who keep screwing up our nation and keep forcing us to endure more Alec Baldwin.
81 posted on 12/28/2002 5:01:08 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bump
82 posted on 12/28/2002 5:01:56 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: savedbygrace
Yeah, I had a 22" Apple Cinema Display (LCD panel) that developed a bad column of pixels.

Please humor me. When did this problem develop? One day, one week, one month after you fired it up? That's the most bad pixels I've ever heard of.

83 posted on 12/28/2002 5:02:43 PM PST by dennisw
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To: FreedomPoster
I agree with you. Our LCD projector matches the production quality to our eyes of the local movie houses.

We are unlikely to purchase any more movie tickets. We will buy the DVD or download the movie and then watch on our PC.

I'll continue to throw cash at Lucasfilm because they innovate so fast that they are creating new stuff every quarter.

On the other hand, the people who think they can make money by perpetually licensing Alec Baldwin films are toast. Either the Bald-one does something new and creative or he's out.

The days of H-wood execs sitting on reruns are over.
84 posted on 12/28/2002 5:03:42 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: dennisw
When I first saw the HP Media Center machine at Best Buy, I instantly thought of your team and that guy fighting the good fight with his one weapon... a Canon GL-1.

Those that attempted to handcuff our people by monopolizing every media stream are going to watch their little empires crumble.

We need to figure out how to monetize the exchange of the high quality reports.

ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN monetize their propaganda machines by selling advertising.
85 posted on 12/28/2002 5:06:34 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: July 4th
hey that's a cool report. Does the Hauppage HDTV tuner card permit digital cable?
86 posted on 12/28/2002 5:07:54 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: Gracey; A Navy Vet; bonesmccoy
I caught the hi-fi bug back when The Beatles went on Ed Sullivan and today sell / install / calibrate Home Theater Systems.

Rest assured you bought the best (mass marketed) Rear Projection set available.
(and at a very good price, I might add)

The Pioneer 50" Elite Plasma is also a top notch performer, but it's $10,000... alas.

The $5000 (now $3000, thanks to Gateway) sets just do not perform anywhere near as well.

$200 for 5.1!?....LOL!
Beats the TV speakers, perhaps, but that's it.

If you look hard enough, you might find a $200 speaker that's ok. Keep in mind, that's ONE speaker.

A decent 5.1 system (5 speakers, sub woofer, and Dolbly Digital Receiver is a grand...minimum.

87 posted on 12/28/2002 5:08:04 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: bonesmccoy
>>We are unlikely to purchase any more movie tickets.

You mean you don't like spending $8 / ticket, $8 more for a coke and some popcorn, so you can sit where the floor is sticky and you can listen to people's cell phones go off? And *then* listen to them carry on a conversation in the theater, while the movie is running?

What's wrong with you? ;-)
88 posted on 12/28/2002 5:08:27 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: fightinJAG
Jim Rob is already permitting posting of video links.

If we had static IP addresses on broadband at home, then we could set up our own media services in each home. This would nullify the ability of Hollywood and New York to control our multimedia habits.
89 posted on 12/28/2002 5:09:08 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
Bang & Olufson? Any respectable home theater doesn't use them or Bose or Yamaha or Sears or JC Pennys drivers. Pick up a copy of Home Theatre magazine or check them out on-line to see what constitutes a REAL home theatre.

Mine is relatively modest: Pioneer Elite 55" rear projection; Adcom preamp, Marantz processor, various medium-range sources, Proceed 3 channel & Adcom 2 channel amps, Definite Technology bi-polar main fronts with 300 watt powered 15" sub in each, Mirage rear and center channel drivers. All in a 15x20 room. Looking at a Marantz DLP based front projector (scaler included) that's comparable to a Runco CRT system for a third price.

90 posted on 12/28/2002 5:11:16 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: eddie willers
Buddy... use your head (but then again... you make money selling high price sound)...
I plugged old speakers into the Yamaha surround system decoder and got a great result.

$200 for 5.1 (assuming pre-existing speakers which are just being recycled/reused/reapplied).
91 posted on 12/28/2002 5:11:41 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: FreedomPoster
Just think.
$8.00 per ticket (two tickets)
$8.00 for drinks/popcorn/candy
Total $24.00
one time viewing


$14.00 for DVD

You decide :)

Short the theatre stocks.
92 posted on 12/28/2002 5:13:41 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: A Navy Vet
As I said...HOW MUCH DID YOU SPEND?

I spent $4,000 bucks if you include the laptop PC and the portable LCD.

If you blindfolded a standard person and walked them into your system vs. mine, there would be little difference in sound quality.
93 posted on 12/28/2002 5:15:08 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: FreedomPoster
"Many have problems with rainbows on DLP's."

The new generation chips don't have that problem from what I've seen, plus they're brighter than LCD.

94 posted on 12/28/2002 5:15:30 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Plasma T.V.
Sounds painful.
95 posted on 12/28/2002 5:18:15 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: dennisw
It happened one day when the ACD was about 5 months old. Losing a column is not that rare, relative to all the problems that happen to an LCD panel. But problems with LCDs in general don't happen very often. (Unless yours has a problem, then it's 100%.)
96 posted on 12/28/2002 5:22:38 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: bonesmccoy
Picture image at night time is 14 diagonal projected on a big flat white wall.

Meant to ask you if this is 14 feet? Oh my, that's quite a creative way to watch home theatre. DVD and TV? How do you feed the TV picutre?

97 posted on 12/28/2002 5:29:21 PM PST by Gracey
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To: savedbygrace
Thanks. Now that I think about it a column failure is logical. Just a short at the top or bottom. Still, previously I've only heard of pixel failures. With some companies you need 5 or 8 bad pixels before they'll replace the monitor or laptop display.
98 posted on 12/28/2002 5:30:43 PM PST by dennisw
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To: bonesmccoy
Buddy... use your head

I used my eyes. You wrote nothing about cobbling a system together.

Do yourself a favor though, and start saving to replace them. Part of the magic of 5.1 is when it becomes "seamless" ...which can only happen when the speakers are timbre matched (or voiced) to sound the same.
ie. sonically the same. That way the pitch doesn't change as the sound moves from speaker to speaker.

I had some big $800/per Polks on the side with a "good" Atlantic Technology $300 center speaker. When I replaced the Atlantic Tech with the "proper" Polk center, the improvement was astounding. Same tweeter, don't you know.

For anyone looking to build on a budget, I suggest getting a good Yamaha (or my favorite) Denon receiver for around $400. Get 3 MATCHING front speakers (LCR...meaning Left / Center / Right) and the BEST subwoofer you can afford ($300 or better). Use your old stereo speakers for your surrounds (or rears) until you can match the front.

One all-in-one set I really like is the Mirage AVS small speaker system (4 identical speakers with matching center) which is usually matched with a Mirage sub and Denon/Yamaha receiver and sold as a package for $999.
Surprisingly good!

Stay away from Bose....not only outrageously overpriced, but poor sounding as well. The above system beats the $3000 Bose like a poor redheaded lefthanded step-child.

99 posted on 12/28/2002 5:39:14 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Fiddlstix
Howdy
100 posted on 12/28/2002 5:41:02 PM PST by Gracey
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