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Plasma TV boosts Gateway picture - (42 " HDTV flat-panel display for $3,000)
The San Diego Union Tribune ^ | December 28, 2002 | Bruce V. Bigelow

Posted on 12/28/2002 1:23:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Plasma TV boosts Gateway picture

Low-price strategy, booming sales make some analysts enthusiastic

By Bruce V. Bigelow
STAFF WRITER

December 28, 2002


When Richard Doherty learned that Gateway, the build-to-order computer maker, was introducing a 42-inch plasma television for the holidays, he thought, "Oh, that'll be a good adjunct to their stores."

When he found out the Poway company would sell the giant flat-panel display for $3,000, Doherty thought, "Oh my God. They're going to change everything."

Though precise sales numbers on the plasma TV haven't been released, it's apparent that the computer maker has scored a coup – at least with analysts like Doherty.

Perhaps more importantly, Gateway might now have a product with the potential for sales growth not seen since the mid-1990s, when runaway personal computer sales drove double-digit revenue growth for the company.

As new government standards for broadcasting digital TV signals go into effect in coming years, some analysts predict the demand for plasma TVs could grow by 70 percent a year through 2008.

"We are constantly looking at the type of new product categories that made us so successful in the PC business," said Gateway's Gui Kahl, a digital solutions manager who guided the plasma TV launch.

In terms of current sales, Kahl and other Gateway officials will say only that holiday sales of the new TV have been running "significantly ahead" of their own internal forecast, whatever that may be.

Yet market researchers like Doherty, who works for the Envisioneering Group of Seaford, N.Y., say they're impressed, and that's a yuletide blessing for Gateway, which has been struggling to shake off losses for the past two years.

"The $3,000, 42-inch plasma TV turned a lot of heads here at Aberdeen and in the marketplace," echoed Peter Kastner, who heads the Boston-based Aberdeen Group's digital consumer technology practice. "The reason is the price point, plain and simple."

With Gateway's plasma TV priced at $2,999, analysts said the company is underselling similar-sized products by 30 percent to 50 percent.

The new TV uses plasma – a mixture of gases – arrayed in tiny gas-filled cells sandwiched between two thin sheets of glass. Using advanced electronics, an electrical current stimulates each cell, or pixel, to produce light and color – creating a vivid, steady picture.

Gateway does not make the flat-panel TV – which is thin enough to hang on a wall – and some analysts believe the original supplier is Sampo of Taiwan. In any event, the timing of Gateway's entry was impeccable.

"Retailers are telling us the Gateway entry this fall has cut in half the sales of similar-sized plasma TVs on both coasts," Doherty said.

Doherty also was enthusiastic about the consistent approach Gateway takes in educating consumers about digital TV on its Web site and in the company's nationwide chain of 272 stores.

Unlike big box consumer electronics retailers, Gateway also ensures that the digital electronic products it sells will work together when consumers get home.

"The second-biggest problem for high-definition TV in America, after confusion over cable and broadcast standards, has been the horrible experiences at consumer electronics retail stores," Doherty said. "Gateway makes sure that everything plays together."

In the last three months of 2002, Doherty estimates, total sales of plasma TVs in the United States could reach 25,000 – equivalent to all previous plasma TV sales. Gateway "clearly stands a chance to get up to 20 percent of that," Doherty added.

Still, other analysts caution those are small numbers – even for a high-priced product.

"It is a 'wow' item, and as prices come down, they will become more popular," said Michelle Abraham, a multimedia analyst for In-Stat/MDR near Phoenix. "But I don't see where they ever move into the mainstream in the next 10 years. It's always going to be more expensive than a comparably sized TV."

Josh Bernoff of Boston-based Forrester Research agreed, saying, "Even at $2,999, there aren't very many people willing to buy" the product.

He also doubts that sales of plasma TVs will come anywhere close to 70 percent compounded annual growth.

Nevertheless, Bernoff conceded that Gateway's sales approach can be an advantage as consumers who want their own home theaters "get into that zone where it gets complicated to hook up."

Besides, Bernoff added, "one of the reason retailers have big, fancy expensive products is that it gets people into the store so they can see all the other neat, fancy equipment that's on sale."

In the end, Bernoff said, Gateway's tactic makes sense for a company that is heavily dependent on consumer sales.

"They're just looking for other stuff they can sell," he said. "Clearly anyone who only sells computers is going to have trouble right now, and diversification is the only solution."


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: hdtv; technology; television
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To: bonesmccoy
Dude...Hollywood is dead. With the DVD rippers and new MediaCenterPC's, you can pop out a secondary CD drive and insert a DVD drive. Reinitialize and begin ripping "home movies" on DVD.

And how many people are going to be able to make "home movies" as worth watching as a big-budget Hollywood film? Not many of us can hire top-notch actors, afford to film "on location", or hire the services of a special-effects house, world-class cinematographer, costume designer, etc. etc.

There's a reason you see the names of *hundreds* of people in the credits of a major movie.

Hollywood's going to be around for many years to come.

181 posted on 12/29/2002 2:50:38 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: bonesmccoy
What in the heck are you smoking/snorting/injecting/drinking? That made absolutely no sense whatever. What on earth does HDTV have to do with DV cameras, and why do you think they are incompatible somehow? What a bizarre "stream of consciousness" rant!
182 posted on 12/29/2002 2:52:51 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: bonesmccoy
In your shilling for Microsoft, you forgot to point out that the new Windows media formats are DRM compliant (DRM=Digital Rights Management): that is, they are designed to protect Hollywood's control over their content, and to deny you your fair use rights over the media you purchase. You posit an opposition between Microsoft and Hollywood which does not exist; in fact, Microsoft is on the same "dark side" team as Hollywood.
183 posted on 12/29/2002 2:56:27 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: ContentiousObjector
Macs doing poorly? Then why is Apple doing so much better financially than the PC makers? Speaking relatively for the industry as a whole, Apple is doing pretty good. It's just that the whole market is in a bit of a slump. But less so for Apple.
184 posted on 12/29/2002 2:59:02 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: dennisw
Yes: it almost does about half what TiVo does, and does it half as well, for about four times the price. Such a deal!
185 posted on 12/29/2002 3:01:24 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Does a bigger boob tube mean seeing bigger boobs? Especially on the nightly news?

I'll pass...

186 posted on 12/29/2002 3:01:56 PM PST by weegee
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To: Dan Day
Since the Feds absolutely refuse to recognize the RIAA or the MPAA as illegal cartels (which is, in fact, what they are, if our antitrust laws mean anything), I'm betting that this "Hollywood is dead" yahoo-cry is a little premature. This is one group of buggy-whip makers who intend to use their influence in Washington to force us to buy buggy whips long after the buggy whip has gone the way of the horse and buggy. We're already doing that, in effect, when we pay extra tax to the RIAA for music CD-R's.
187 posted on 12/29/2002 3:14:25 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
lets see here, Apple reported a loss last quarter, their marketshare has been falling for 5 years straight and Apple is chasing away their core publishing and education customers with a shotgun

Yeah, I would say Apple is doing poorly, and I have been a mac user since 1985.

Maybe if Apple gets rid of that leftist hippie bastard Steve Jobs and bring back John Sculley they will start moving again

188 posted on 12/29/2002 3:40:24 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: John Jamieson
correct...
here's the info on the projector I use


INFOCUS
RP10x Business Projector
Projector, Micro Portable, TFT, 1024 x 768, 900 ANSI Lumens, 5.7 lbs, Remote Included, Built-in speaker

$2,399.00


Depth: 26.9 cm
Height: 7.6 cm
Weight: 2.6 kg
Width: 21.1 cm
Analog Video Format: SECAM, PAL, PAL-N, PAL-M, NTSC 4.43, NTSC 3.58
Analog Video Signal: RGB
Analog Video Signal: RGB, S-Video, composite video
Audio Output: Speaker(s) - integrated
Built-in Devices: Speaker
Cable(s) included: 1 x S-Video cable - external ¦ 1 x A/V cable - external ¦ 1 x display cable - external ¦ 1 x mouse cable - external ¦ 1 x USB cable - external
Color Support: 24-bit (16.7M colors)
Compliant Standards: UL, CE, cUL, FCC-A, NOM, GOST
Connectivity Technology: Wireless
Device Type: LCD projector
Dimensions (WxDxH): 21.1 cm x 26.9 cm x 7.6 cm
Display Format / Technology: 2,359,296 pixels (1,024 x 768 x 3) TFT active matrix
Environmental Parameters: Temperature: 10 °C - 35 °C Humidity: 20 - 80%
Image Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Image Brightness: 900 ANSI lumens
Image Contrast Ratio: 400:1
Image Size: 0.65 m - 6.6 m
Included Accessories: Carrying case
Input Device: Remote control
Lamp Type: UHP 132 Watt ( 2000 hour(s) )
Lens Aperture: F/1.7-1.9
Max Resolution: 1024 x 768
Max Resolution: 1024 x 768 (native) / 1400 x 1050 (compressed)
Max Sync Rate (V x H): 130 Hz x 100 kHz
Output Power / Channel: 1 Watt
Power: AC 110/220 V ± 10% ( 50/60 Hz )
Power Consumption Operational: 220 Watt
Projection Distance: 1 m - 7.8 m
Software included: Drivers & Utilities
Sound Emission: 34 dBA
Sound Output Mode: Mono
Sound Output Mode: Mono 1 Watt
Speaker(s): 2 x mixed channel
Technology: TFT active matrix
Type: Remote control - external
Type: Speaker(s) - integrated
Video Input: SECAM, PAL, PAL-N, PAL-M, NTSC 4.43, NTSC 3.58
Voltage Required: AC 110/220 V ± 10% ( 50/60 Hz )
Warranty: 1 year warranty
Max Altitude Operating: 3 km
Video Bandwidth: 160 MHz
Zoom Factor: 1.3x
Port(s) Total / Connector Type: 1 x S-video input - 4 pin mini-DIN ¦ 1 x composite video input - RCA ¦ 1 x VGA input - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) ¦ 1 x VGA output - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) ¦ 1 x audio line-in - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
Product Description: InFocus RP 10x - LCD projector
Power Device: Power supply - integrated
Service & Support: 1 year warranty
Service & Support Details: Limited warranty - parts and labor - 2 years ¦ Limited warranty - lamp - 90 days
189 posted on 12/29/2002 7:44:40 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
Looks like a good one. I'll check it out. Thanks.
190 posted on 12/29/2002 8:49:41 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
what's the equivalent pixel depth of 1080i?

Although the projector states the tech specs listed, I'm actually projecting at 1400 x 1050 pixels
191 posted on 12/29/2002 8:52:11 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: Dan Day
if hiring Alec Baldwin is your love, go ahead... go see their film.

as for me... bleeachh.
192 posted on 12/29/2002 8:53:32 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: July 4th
I noticed that Hauppage wants to sell another product for DV editing and importing. It would be interesting to quantify the digital video cards in the Windows Media Center PC's vs. Hauppage's cards.

If the Media Center PC's can do MPG2 encoding and sustain a pixel depth that matches 720x480 or greater pixel depth, we're talking about a machine that surpasses the analog video editing machines for broadcast TV.

Although broadcast TV is moving to a higher pixel depth (HDTV), the PC industry needs to match hardware specs.

The Bush Administration needs to level the media playing field and democratize media in the US.

Why should the entry price be so high for TV broadcast?

It shouldn't be.

David Dennis proved that he could do more than CBS or CNN this past summer.

He's set the standard.

We all need to match.
193 posted on 12/29/2002 9:01:38 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
what's the equivalent pixel depth of 1080i?

I don't understand "pixel depth"?

1080i is supposed to be like 1850x1080 but I understand that no one is really broadcasting that kindof horizontal resolution. What are you using for a source? I want to do HDTV over the air (Dallas towers). What kind of tuner do you use?
194 posted on 12/29/2002 9:31:42 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: bonesmccoy
BTTT!
195 posted on 12/29/2002 9:40:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We have one of the plasma HDTV screens at work, and several tube HDTVs as well.

It's personal preference, but most prefer the tube over the plasma. The plasma makes the picture softer. I like both of them okay, but I do prefer the tube.

As far as HDTV resolution, though, I have one word: AWESOME! And if you think movies are great on HDTV, you should see sports. HDTV is definitely the wave of the future.

196 posted on 12/30/2002 8:32:59 AM PST by webstersII
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To: John Jamieson
yes, by "pixel depth", I meant the number of pixels horizontal x verticle.

1080i seems to beat the LCD projector I have.

But, then again, what should I expect for 2K vs. 10K.

:)
197 posted on 12/30/2002 9:59:04 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
"1080i seems to beat the LCD projector I have. But, then again, what should I expect for 2K vs. 10K."

Thanks. You just made my point, which was...you don't know what "great home theater" is. BTW, we're in agreement about room size effect on speaker performance, but you're the one who claimed to entertain 15-20 people...I can just see the crowd squinting to see your InFocus on the painted wall with the $200 sound system straining against the underpowered amp. BTW, notice you didn't debate the DLP v. LCD.

Those of you who want a really good home projector and don't have the $28,000 plus for a CRT system should take a look at the the latest generation DLP systems (Marantz and Sharp for two). Coupled with the included scaler (doubler/quadrupler), they are the closest thing to the holy grail of home theatre viewing, just barely less performance than CRT at a third the cost. Oh, and you may want an actual screen to reflect the light properly, rather than a dull painted wall. Stewart home screens are widely acclaimed.

And yes, celluloid still has the most resolution (NO pixels) and tonal balance of any of the display systems. Ever wonder why they don't make movies in digital? ... because they haven't overcome the lack of warmth inherent to the digital medium.

198 posted on 12/31/2002 1:54:48 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: bonesmccoy
"Image Aspect Ratio: 4:3"

Now I know you're totally lost on this home theater thing. You don't even get a wide screen frame. How could you possibly claim enjoying a "great" home theater experience when you can't see the entire picture? Sheeesh, I've been wasting time with a Pan and Scan viewer.

199 posted on 12/31/2002 2:05:11 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: bonesmccoy
"AOTC was filmed on totally digital cameras and the editing was done almost immediately by their production team."

Oops, missed that. Well, if it looks the same as film or better than great.

Also, you missed by decription of my gear above...the front main speakers have subs built into them with their own dedicated amp right in the speaker enclosure. If you want the difference between a booming base and a sub-frequency thumb in an average home room, you need to move some air...so yes, you need subs.

200 posted on 12/31/2002 2:15:12 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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