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Raise the taxes for our own good
AZ Republic ^ | 12/28/02 | Dan Schweiker

Posted on 12/28/2002 11:59:09 AM PST by hsmomx3

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1 posted on 12/28/2002 11:59:09 AM PST by hsmomx3
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I know the only logical thing to do right now is to raise taxes. The facts are clear and incontrovertible

Looks like the use of peyote is still prevalent in AZ.

2 posted on 12/28/2002 12:01:38 PM PST by TheGrimReaper
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RINOS never learn.....

I will go along with this tax hike - if he can prove one time that you can tax your way to prosperity

3 posted on 12/28/2002 12:03:16 PM PST by Nat Turner
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To: hsmomx3
Imbecile.
4 posted on 12/28/2002 12:03:54 PM PST by ppaul
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Cut the taxes. Cut the government spending. Grow the economy. It's the only way.
5 posted on 12/28/2002 12:05:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: hsmomx3; Willie Green
And, yes, I'm willing to pay more taxes to make that happen.

Dan Schweiker is chairman and CEO of Scottsdale-based China Mist Tea Co.

Wonderful! He can just donate the government his #$%@@ tea company. Those of us enjoying the 38% and higher bracket spend our time looking for tax BREAKS. Sheesh, the Arizonan Republicans need to find an industrial-sized butterfly net for that loon.

Willie, I didn't think you'd want to miss this, FRiend.

7 posted on 12/28/2002 12:06:07 PM PST by xJones
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So what's stopping this idiot from mailing in more taxes from himself? Nothing. He wants to steal from others. POS.
8 posted on 12/28/2002 12:06:39 PM PST by tomahawk
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Dan Schweiker is chairman and CEO of Scottsdale-based China Mist Tea Co.

I think Schweiker's been smoking some of that China Mist.

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9 posted on 12/28/2002 12:07:07 PM PST by JCG
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"As a Republican, I ..." STINK!
10 posted on 12/28/2002 12:08:32 PM PST by Libertina
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To: tomahawk
Once the tax raising frenzy begins it is hard to stop.I personally don't mind paying taxes for essential services but the amount of waste here in California is shameful.
11 posted on 12/28/2002 12:09:55 PM PST by Riverman94610
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"If we do the opposite - cut services and take tax dollars out of the economy - private businesses will ultimately feel the pinch."

I agree, nothing worse than a company feeling the pinch of having too much money to pay the employees, the creditors, and cutting the price of goods and services.

12 posted on 12/28/2002 12:10:34 PM PST by HighWheeler
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One of the reasons the rates are so high is that there are too few people paying them.

We fought one war over taxation without representation. We may have to fight another one over representation without taxation.

13 posted on 12/28/2002 12:11:53 PM PST by tacticalogic
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I have yet to see a business that shrank itself to greatness. That applies to government as well.
This pragmatic Republican should think of what the duty of government is and then reduce it to that, and do those few tasks well.

Special tax treatment for select goods narrows the tax base, distorts consumer behavior and is just plain unfair for industries that haven't (yet) gotten some special exemption.
100% on target. The tax code is used to benefit political donors, or used to punish those that don't play along.

My business will suffer if I can't find qualified employees
That could be true, but I would like to see some specifics on this. Is he having trouble hiring now? Why is that? It looks like he runs China Mist Tea.

14 posted on 12/28/2002 12:12:57 PM PST by lelio
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To: tomahawk
I've often thought that instead of raising taxes just let it be known that if people want to pay more, they can just send it in. Of course we also have Janet El Reno Napo as our new governor. I'm not so sure she will be able to raise taxes as much as she'd like.
15 posted on 12/28/2002 12:13:08 PM PST by hsmomx3
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Our economy needs the stimulus of tax dollars to keep money flowing in the economy.

Here is the key statement...This clown is a moron!

"The stimulus of tax dollars"? Taxes remove dollars from the economy. Sheesh!

Another socialist seeking a party...try the Democrat party. They have the same misguided thought processes as you do.

(not you..hsmomx3)

16 posted on 12/28/2002 12:15:41 PM PST by MarketR
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Right, so everytime the economy is bad, increase taxes and the economy becomes good again? Let's just jack up taxes to 100% then, boy, the money would be flowing like crazy, the economy would be out of this world.

Small businesses would feel no pinch at all if we would only have full income taxation! What a lunatic.
17 posted on 12/28/2002 12:16:57 PM PST by B. Rabbit
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</i> Cutting basic government services is bad for business. Eliminating state jobs and state spending threatens our economic recovery.

Our economy needs the stimulus of tax dollars to keep money flowing in the economy.</i>

I thought this keynsian bs was discredited long ago. How is taking the money from people who would have spent it (based on their needs), and letting the government spend it (based on political, special interest considerations and inefficient government jobs) stimulating to the economy?

As President Bush noticed, even giving people the $300 or $600 checks over the summer was not stimulating. It's better than if the government spent it, but still not stimulating because as economists noted, people change behavior based on their expected PERMANENT income, not this temporary blip.

The only way to truly stimulate the economy is to cut the marginal tax rate (the tax rate for each additional dollar of income). This will incent people to work for that extra dollar since they get to keep more of it. Otherwise they prefer time for leisure rather than expand that extra effort. This stimulates the economy as more work (productivity) gets done, more gets produced, more income is generated and spent, more workers are hired...

Republicans need to inform the public at large of the above since our schools are obviously not doing their job. It is a more complex explanation than the usual sound bite politics. That's why it's so much easier (even though wrong) to be a liberal.
18 posted on 12/28/2002 12:20:42 PM PST by winner3000
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Our economy needs the stimulus of tax dollars to keep money flowing in the economy.

You beat me to it, but you've expressed my sentiments exactly.

If anyone can tell me how tax dollars stimulate the economy, you know where to find me...

19 posted on 12/28/2002 12:22:21 PM PST by Fintan
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To: TheGrimReaper
I have yet to see a business that shrank itself to greatness. That applies to government as well.

On the contrary - we have yet to see a situation where prosperity comes from taxation.

The crux of this guy's argument is that we need government spending to keep money flowing in the economy. IOW, this guy thinks government serves as the proverbial middle man for economic activity. This idea is unsound, and runs contrary to arguments for efficiency that dominate economic thinking.

Cutting basic government services is bad - but what does he consider "basic" and what does he consider excessive or unnecessary?

This guy advocates placing taxes on internet sales claiming it is not fair that local businesses must pay the sales tax, whereas people purchasing over the internet (out of state) do not have to pay. Wouldn't it be more fair to the local businesses then to cut taxes so they can better compete with out-of-state internet driven sales? Also, someone in AZ buying a product over the internet from a business in CA, tells us two important things about taxation - the first is that such people view local taxes as already being too high, and secondly, the level of taxation that people will bear for given products is equivalent to the shipping costs of acquiring the goods out-of-state. Also, aren't there people in CA purchasing goods from merchants in AZ so they too can avoid paying their excessive sales taxes? If these so-called business friendly politicians want to help local businesses, they should work to get taxation more in line with shipping costs so people will not develop an interest in acquiring goods from out-of-state.

Now, however, we have seen that it is just another way of doing business and does not deserve the tax breaks that penalize all the businesses that invest in bricks and mortar and employees.

This is a specious argument because like I said above, people from all over benefit from e-commerce, and merchants from all over benefit from e-commerce as well. Furthermore, aren't many e-commerce sites themselves established brick-and-mortar businesses, owned by both national corporate interests as well as being owned by "mom and pop" types of a local nature?

This guy purports s to be business friendly in the guise of fairness, but his view of the world is not fair to consumers or to local entreprenurial interests either.
Pragmatic Republican????
More like pragmatic socialist.

20 posted on 12/28/2002 12:25:12 PM PST by citizenK
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