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To: clamper1797
I don't disagree.However,these people-the ones not hiring folks such as yourself-are deluding themselves if they think the economy,even when it turns around,will be anything like the house o' cards clinton roaring nineties.So,they SHOULD take a chance but they are too ignorant to do so.
63 posted on 12/29/2002 8:42:56 AM PST by John W
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To: John W
.So,they SHOULD take a chance but they are too ignorant to do so.

Though I agree with you, their ignorance is NOT going to pay the bills.

Unemployment used to be two years. It was lowered to six months during the "boom" years as it wasn't really needed. It IS needed now. There are over 90,000 laid off high tech workers in Silicon Valley out of a high tech workforce of approx 300,000. Do the math, that is approx 33%. These high tech workers are NOT bums and WOULD take just about any job. Contrary to a few delusional misinformed or just plain stupid people on this thread, there are NOT 90,000 low level jobs for these people to take. The government really does NOT want the technical base of this country, you know ... the people who design the nifty high tech stuff that keeps us a super power and enables us to defeat our enemies though they out number us ... the government does NOT want to lose those people to Burger King. So George W gives out an additional 3 months ($4,000) of unemployment so these people can at least feed their families while they try to find a job. Most of these laid off high tech workers pay and have paid high taxes through the years. That $4,000 pittance is not even 10% of what I paid in taxes last year. That little $330 a week is not going to pay the mortgage nor is it meant to. That means that people who have been out of work for 6-12 month have probably already lost their life savings trying to keep their houses which are now probably in foreclosure. The rate of mortgage default in Silicon Valley as reported by the media is ... 42%.

If you noticed ... not only did the job market tank BUT the stock market also crashed during this time. A lot of these people saved their money ... as they as supposed to ... in various markets including long term 401K's ... and lost EVERYTHING (like me). The banks pay ... what 1.5%? Oh ya that's a good investment for the future.

The bottomline of this rant is ...

1. Unemployed high tech workers are NOT bums looking for a hand out. Their jobs have been stolen from them by H1B's who have NO business in our country taking our jobs just so some greedy company can make an easy buck.
2. H1B's can work for minimum wage because they DO NOT have to live in THIS society when they leave. It is NOT a level playing field for the American worker.
3. Lower wage paying companies are NOT going to hire highly (over) qualified people. AND if a high tech worker aws lucky enough to land a low paying job, he would NO LONGER be available to interview for high tech jobs if they became available cause he is now flipping burgers in Podunk (where the jobs are).
4. The next industry hit by this could EASILY be yours ... so get off your arrogant assinine high horse (not talking to you personally John)
5. Most of these high tech workers have spent a lifetime building their lives and are NOT likely to give them up before the situation becomes critical ... we HAVE been though downturns before, BUT in high tech this is NOT a repression ... as the media recently reported, it is a high tech DEPRESSION. No one could have anticipated the level that this has reached.
On a good note ... after 9 months of hell 88 recruiters and dozens of resume submittals ... I got a job in an electronics company doing something distantly related to my disipline. I was into my first extension, without which I would have gone hungry.

65 posted on 12/29/2002 9:44:01 AM PST by clamper1797
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To: John W
I agree--clamper, you could have come back with an "I don't know if the economy will turn around so I am looking into starting into a different career and direction in my life. I do not see this as temporary at this point in my life" How would that be lying to the man? He just wants reassurances and it's easy to give them since NOBODY knows if and when the economy will be like it was for high tech folks anyway. If the economy doesn't come back you may end up retiring as the district manager from the place, living comfortably, and if it does, you still may have given the guy a good 2 yrs of your working life. I can see though how he would not feel very reassured when you all but said you have no real committment there. You are selling yourself short since you don't know what the future holds. You and others like you are behaving as if your fields will open back up, I just don't think that is the way to go since you don't know. You could have given the man the reassurances he was looking for, without lying, and got that job imo.
139 posted on 12/29/2002 2:24:52 PM PST by glory
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