[marajade]

Great... You never did answer my question about whether or not the US should have these programs available or not even for US citizens...

[FITZ]

I think they should be privitized and eventually be by voluntary contributions. I think if they actually had all welfare recipients have to physically show up all at one time, they would find out many don't actually exist or have multiple identities. Or just tell them all they have a job and must report or be cut off ---probably many wouldn't show at all.

[FITZ]

We've even seen that at the workplace ---something I wouldn't have thought about ---we had to physically show up to prove we existed because they were making sure there were no "ghost" employees which are people who left but whose supervisors keep them on the payroll and will even clock them in and out ----easy to do with a joint bank account I guess.