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NFL Football Discussion Thread ~ Final Week of Regular Season
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Posted on 12/28/2002 10:07:35 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

*** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

And thus begins the official end to the season of 20 NFL teams as the 12 survivors jockey for their post-season slots this weekend.


AFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
  Miami          9  6 0 
  N.Y. Jets      8  7 0 
  New England    8  7 0  
  Buffalo        7  8 0 
 

AFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Pittsburgh     9  5 1 
  Cleveland      8  7 0 
  Baltimore      7  8 0 
  Cincinnati     2 13 0  
 

AFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tennessee     10  5 0 
  Indianapolis   9  6 0 
  Jacksonville   6  9 0 
  Houston        4 11 0 
 
AFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Oakland       10  5 0 
  Denver         8  7 0 
  Kansas City    8  7 0 
  San Diego      8  7 0 


NFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
yz-Philadelphia 12  3 0  
  N.Y. Giants    9  6 0 
  Washington     6  9 0 
  Dallas         5 10 0  
 

NFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Green Bay     12  3 0
  Minnesota      5 10 0 
  Chicago        4 11 0 
  Detroit        3 12 0 
 

NFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tampa Bay     11  4 0  
  Atlanta        9  5 1 
  New Orleans    9  6 0  
  Carolina       6  9 0 
 

NFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-San Francisco 10  5 0 
  Seattle        6  9 0 
  St. Louis      6  9 0 
  Arizona        5 10 0  

x-clinched playoff berth y-clinched division title z-clinched first-round bye *-clinched homefield advantage

Official playoff scenarios

The following are the official playoff scenarios in each conference and division as determined by the NFL. Strength of victory is the season-ending winning percentage of all the opponents a team has defeated. Strength of victory can change after final week.

AFC EAST

Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee loss AND Pittsburgh loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Oakland loss; 2) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 3) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss; 2) Win AND Oakland loss.

Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie AND Kansas City loss; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

AFC SOUTH

Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Oakland loss; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Miami win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee wins on strength of victory tiebreaker over Miami and Oakland.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Oakland loss AND Miami win AND Tennessee wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Miami.

Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.

AFC WEST

OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Tennessee loss or tie; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Miami loss; 4) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Tie; 2) Miami loss or tie AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Miami loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 4) Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.

Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Kansas City loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.

Kansas City Chiefs: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis win or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 3) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland win; 4) Tie AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND Kansas City loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

NFC EAST

Philadelphia Eagles: Have clinched NFC East title and a first-round bye.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Green Bay loss or tie; 3) Green Bay loss.

New York Giants: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND New Orleans loss or tie; 3) New Orleans loss.

NFC NORTH

Green Bay Packers: Have clinched NFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Philadelphia loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Philadelphia loss; Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Tampa Bay loss or tie.

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Have clinched NFC South title.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win AND Green Bay loss.

Atlanta Falcons: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 3) New Orlean loss or tie.

New Orleans Saints: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 2) Win AND Atlanta loss; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Giants loss.

NFC WEST

49ers: Have clinched NFC West title.

Source

The following teams have been officially eliminated from playoff contention:

Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and Washington

WEEK 17 SCHEDULE

(all times Eastern Standard Time)

Saturday, Dec. 28 
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1:30 pm
Kansas City at Oakland, 5:00 pm 
Sunday, Dec. 29 
Atlanta at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm 
Carolina at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at Buffalo, 1:00 pm 
Dallas at Washington, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm 
Minnesota at Detroit, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Houston, 1:00 pm 
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 4:05 pm
Arizona at Denver, 4:15 pm 
Green Bay at N.Y. Jets, 4:15 pm
Seattle at San Diego, 4:15 pm 
Tampa Bay at Chicago, 8:30 pm  
Monday, Dec. 30 
San Francisco at St. Louis, 9:00 pm  

POSTSEASON


Wild-Card Weekend 
Saturday, Jan. 4
AFC or NFC game, 4:30 pm on ABC
AFC or NFC game, 8:00 pm on ABC 
Sunday, Jan. 5
AFC game, 1:00 pm on CBS
NFC game, 4:30 pm on FOX 
Divisional Playoffs 
Saturday, Jan. 11
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS
NFC game, 8:00 pm on FOX
Sunday, Jan. 12
NFC game, 1:00 pm on FOX
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS 
Conference Championships 
Sunday, Jan. 19
NFC Championship Game, 3:00 pm on FOX
AFC Championship Game, 6:30 pm on CBS 
Super Bowl XXXVII 
Sunday, Jan. 26
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, Calif.
6:00 pm on ABC 


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AFC Seedings
#1 Oakland Raiders
#2 Tennessee Titans
#3 Pittsburgh Steelers
#4 New York Jets
#5 Indianapolis Colts
#6 Cleveland Browns

Next week’s games
Cleveland Browns @ Pittsburgh Steelers
Indianapolis Colts @ New York Jets

NFC Seedings thus far...
#1 Philadelphia Eagles
#2 Green Bay Packers or Tampa Bay Buccaneers
#3 Packers or Bucs or San Francisco 49ers
#4 Bucs or 49ers
#5 New York Giants
#6 Atlanta Falcons

Next week’s games
NY/Atl @ San Francisco 49ers
NY/Atl @ Tampa/Green Bay

481 posted on 12/29/2002 4:31:44 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: marajade
No it wasn't. But not like it made a difference. But before you say why I didn't like the call, get to know me. You do not know me, if you did, you know that I rip on officials for calls that go both ways, look at the Vikings Game a couple of weeks ago, no excuse for missing a few of those calls, calls that allowed the Packers to win. I think the officiating this season has been horrible, that call that I am upset about was a perfect example of bad officiating, but bad calls that go for my team irk me, it is inexcusable.

Congrats on your win, the playoffs will be over for the Packers on January 5th (unless they play on the 4th, then it will be over on Saturday). That being said, it will be over for the Jets real quick too, so I find solace in that.
482 posted on 12/29/2002 4:34:51 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
I have nothing kind to say about the thugs that play for the Buccaneers (Warren Sapp). The Only class acts their might be John Lynch, Brad Johnson, and Shaun King (then he isn't good enough to have an attitude).
483 posted on 12/29/2002 4:36:32 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat
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Seattle comes from behind!

28 Seattle
28 San Diego

Overtime

Playoff implications - NONE

484 posted on 12/29/2002 4:37:07 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: NWU Army ROTC
I think the officiating sucks... they blow the whistle before plays are through in effect making a challenge impossible...

I only wanted the Jets because with their win, the Pats and the Dolphins are out... SF can't hardly beat GB in SF let alone in GB...
485 posted on 12/29/2002 4:38:43 PM PST by marajade
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To: CounterCounterCulture
woo hoo... I HATE shottinheimer...
486 posted on 12/29/2002 4:39:28 PM PST by marajade
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To: motzman
Naw... I did mention that the Giants have to momentum of all the NFC teams. They'll have to do it on the road though. And if the home teams win next week, my Raiders will take care of the Jets.

Lightning strikes twice for motzman? Time will tell
:P

487 posted on 12/29/2002 4:41:40 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Giants have to momentum ==>> Giants have the momentum
488 posted on 12/29/2002 4:50:13 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
You did a wonderful job this weekend keeping tabs on all the games as they progressed and the resulting implications for each outcome.......

Thanks!

489 posted on 12/29/2002 4:54:11 PM PST by hole_n_one
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Seattle wins in OT! The Charger fold is complete.

31 Seattle
28 San Diego

Overtime/FINAL

Playoff implications - NONE

490 posted on 12/29/2002 4:56:15 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture; E Rocc; St. Clair Slim
Pssst. Hey, Playoffs!
We're baaack...

Birth of Tha SYNDICATE, the philosophical heir to William Lloyd Garrison.
101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that Internet Explorer cannot.

491 posted on 12/29/2002 4:56:30 PM PST by rdb3
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To: marajade
I understand.

And let me apologize for being so angry and impolite in my prior post to you. I was just a little upset, so if I offended, I apologize. God Bless
492 posted on 12/29/2002 4:56:37 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat
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To: hole_n_one
Thanks. It was fun doing it.
493 posted on 12/29/2002 4:57:19 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Show your face.............if you dare
494 posted on 12/29/2002 5:07:12 PM PST by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: All
Dont'cha all just feel the love ?

Is it safe to take my helmet off yet ;-?
495 posted on 12/29/2002 5:14:54 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: Senator Pardek
Good grief......Christie Whitman had grass installed for the World Cup.....wwwwwwayyyyyyy back when!!
496 posted on 12/29/2002 5:19:18 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Raiders huh? They're pretty good, but don't really have a running game (Garner is versatile and good, a poor man's Tiki Barber..Wheatley, well, stinks) and they don't have a very good secondary (14th in AFC). Their run defense is good, but not unbeatable.

Home field? Not as big of a deal as you would think, the bye is the key.

After seeing the Jets-Raiders game on Monday night a few weeks back, I think the Jets would have a good shot against them, unless the League allows the Raiders to stop the game for 5 minutes and drive a golf cart onto the feild and introduce to the viewing public the remainder of Tim Brown's family.

Jets Raiders could have makings of a classic.

On the other hand, the Giants have, in my opinion, a much better shot than the Jets. Although they have to play an extra game, that extra game will not be an issue if they make it to the SB. You don't get tired in the SB. (unless you're the 1991 Buffalo Bills defensive line in SB XXV) My confidence in the Giants right now comes from the fact that the other NFC playoff teams aren't that great, and NONE of them are "scary" in any way.

Philly? hahahaha.
GB--wouldn't want to play them at Lambeau, but they're not that good
Tampa Bay? They stink. Period...
San Fran? weak defense, T.O. will be covered--not afraid of them.
Atlanta? One and done, guaranteed. They don't play smart--Vick tries too hard, undisciplined.)

The only teams that I wouldn't want to play would be the Raiders or the Jets. The Raiders are scary...as long a Rich Gannon is QB. He's great, and can beat you with his own skill. The Jets? They kicked the crap out of GB, and Pennington is just getting better and better. After they make Indy look silly next week, they'll be taken for real.
BUT, I have an uneasy feeling that an injury to a key player could knock out any team this year.

Should be interesting, indeed.......
497 posted on 12/29/2002 5:21:45 PM PST by motzman
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To: NWU Army ROTC
Still friends? I hope GB goes all the way if they are your team...
498 posted on 12/29/2002 5:22:48 PM PST by marajade
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Ray Nitschke Ray Nitschke

They don't make 'em like this anymore.

499 posted on 12/29/2002 5:28:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: Timesink
Timesink, you and I have disagreed about many things in our past on this board. But God Bless Chad Pennington. Now I need to shower up after pulling for both NY teams all weekend.
500 posted on 12/29/2002 5:28:56 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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