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To: WhiskeyPapa
The word "nice" was never used, but thanks for the correction. I misread it myself.

The word "nice" was obviously my personal summary of the treatment referred to in the quote, and I stand by it. Your use of ONLY, however, was completely incorrect in all regards, as I have already demonstrated. If it makes you feel any better I will point out an error in one of my previous statements. I said Douglass temporarily supported the Democrats in 1864, when in fact it was the Radical Republican running against Lincoln that he supported. The Democrats selection of a pro-peace platform is what made him change his mind, as he and many other Radicals did not want to take any chances on McClellan getting elected. Douglass was a Radical Republican through and through, which explains his constant frustraction with Abe and his criticism as well. Of course, that doesn't mean he didn't say a nice word here or there.

387 posted on 12/30/2002 2:15:29 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: thatdewd
This is from the -same- speech. It makes it hard to credit you with much objectivity:

"Though he loved Caesar less than Rome, though the Union was more to him than our freedom or our future, under his wise and beneficent rule we saw ourselves gradually lifted from the depths of slavery to the heights of liberty and manhood; under his wise and beneficent rule, and by measures approved and vigorously pressed by him, we saw that the handwriting of ages, in the form of prejudice and proscription, was rapidly fading away from the face of our whole country; under his rule, and in due time, about as soon after all as the country could tolerate the strange spectacle, we saw our brave sons and brothers laying off the rags of bondage, and being clothed all over in the blue uniforms of the soldiers of the United States; under his rule we saw two hundred thousand of our dark and dusky people responding to the call of Abraham Lincoln, and with muskets on their shoulders, and eagles on their buttons, timing their high footsteps to liberty and union under the national flag; under his rule we saw the independence of the black republic of Haiti, the special object of slave-holding aversion and horror, fully recognized, and her minister, a colored gentleman, duly received here in the city of Washington; under his rule we saw the internal slave-trade, which so long disgraced the nation, abolished, and slavery abolished in the District of Columbia; under his rule we saw for the first time the law enforced against the foreign slave trade, and the first slave-trader hanged like any other pirate or murderer; under his rule, assisted by the greatest captain of our age, and his inspiration, we saw the Confederate States, based upon the idea that our race must be slaves, and slaves forever, battered to pieces and scattered to the four winds; under his rule, and in the fullness of time, we saw Abraham Lincoln, after giving the slave-holders three months' grace in which to save their hateful slave system, penning the immortal paper, which, though special in its language, was general in its principles and effect, making slavery forever impossible in the United States. Though we waited long, we saw all this and more."

-- Frederick Douglass, 1876

Walt

394 posted on 12/31/2002 2:49:59 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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