Posted on 12/26/2002 6:40:12 PM PST by NormsRevenge
Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration adopted a new plan and guidelines today for replacing swamps and bogs that have been filled or drained to make way for highway, housing or other projects.
Administration officials said their approach, based on input from six agencies, will not diminish the role of wetlands in providing habitat to wildlife, flood control and water quality.
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Their destruction contributes to flooding, pollution runoff into streams and rivers and loss of important habitat for fish and wildlife.
This is true, as a conservative and a sportsman I want to see the enviroment protected, But I am becoming a little uneasy with the way the bush admin. is handling the issue.
I can relate to that.
In every situation, science by NAS will be superior to that done by a federal agency.
That isn't saying very much.
I have my doubts the Dr. Moyle will be that fair, although there is no doubt that he will be better than his FWS predecessor (who is off in Utah screwing the owners of rangeland grazing rights on BLM land). Unfortunately, Dr. Moyle or one of his fans has scrubbed many of his writings off the web, so I can't cite them to you now, and I didn't copy them when I had the chance. I sure wish the FR archives were searchable because I posted them there during the original word that Moyle would head the panel.
The man can be more than a bit shrill and unlikely to be purely objective. You over-estimate the NAS.
Being in the middle is a terrible place to be.
It's this process that isn't credible.
While your estimation of NAS comes from one direction, the NAS's findings on Klamath are being challenged bty the enviros.
My estimation? It's Moyle who has betrayed his own bias. The activist thugs will always sue because that's their job and you know it. So why are you assuming that the solution is found compromising with extortion artists? This was never about fish, plants, or animals; it's about money. Best you learn that.
Every single "stakeholder" in this mess is skewing their data in to benefit their case. Even if the NAS were purely objective (which they're not), how are they to know what's credible information? These decisions are necessarily unreliable simply because of the motivational architecture under which the players operate.
Ben, truth isn't necessarily found in the middle, nor is it an art of compromise. The NAS has no more business making policy decisions than the RICOnuts do, because optimizing the sheer number of competing risks in a an ecosystem is beyond human capability when utilizing a hierarchical decision-making system, even on a purely ecological basis. By the time they follow NEPA and take cultural and economic risks into consideration... OOPS! They're unqualified for that; need more scientists. How many years is that going to take?
Ben, I want you to imagine how huge every environmental decision would get if they really followed every step to its logical conclusion under the law and if it could ever be afforded. Then I want you to consider how long each such decision would take and how much damage the inaction would induce.
It's the system that's the problem, Ben. It's broken. Worse, it's not even the one we were given under the Constitution.
Socialism is less capable of running the environment than it is running the economy. It's going to take decades to learn how to use a free-market system, but until we do this kind of paralysis is going to get worse. Best we get started.
They'll just change t-shirts.
The drought Nazis were getting geared up in our county to declare a drought, raise the price of water and be in our kitchens and baths when we dared to use any water.
Yup.
Now they are back in their cubby hole praying for the next drought!
Nope. They're scrounging in the closet for their "El Nino is Global Warming" t-shirts.
El Nino!
Global Warming!!
GIVE US YOUR CAR!!!
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