Living Longer: Calories that Count (Longevity - live to 158!)

PBS - Stealing Time series ^ | ? | Dr. Roy Walford

[Focault's Pendulum]

You get to live to be 150, but you have to eat three heads of cabbage each day...

I tried...but I could only get two down at a sitting.

Somehow downing a third gives me constipation.

Privately....I think the Cabbage Patch Kids are owned by Metemucil"

[theFIRMbss]

>"For example, 50 percent of female control mice of a particular genetic strain develop breast cancer, but only 5 percent of the same strain if on a CR diet." [paragraph 3]
>>Can I get a grant to determine why there are only 8 buns in a bag but 10 hot dogs in a package?

Of all the stupid
crap that gets funded these days,
why criticize this,

which actually
reports a repeatable
method for almost

eliminating
many cancers? It's a dream
come true. (But it's not

magic pills. It can't
be packaged and sold. It takes,
simply, self-control.)

This study might be
"evolution in action."
One group of people

will ignore it. They
will be -- statistically -- more
inclined to feel tired,

get sick, die young, not
compete with the folks who take
the study to heart.

Over time, the genes
that contribute to smartness
preferentially

will get passed on more
and simple numbers will make
our whole world smarter.

That is, I suppose,
if evolution does work
as it's supposed to...

[Victoria Delsoul]

My CR is pretty good and I workout everyday. Thanks for the advice anyway. ;-)

[theFIRMbss]

>The amusing part is that he was a member of the "ecosphere" project. It turns out that the designers of that sealed environment neglected a teensy fact...

An academic
who performs experiments
on himself rather

rather than pale-skinned
grad students or unaware
population groups?

This guy certainly
is out of touch with modern
academia...

[T. P. Pole]

And spend a third of your life on the toilet,

...and the other 2/3rds wishing you were on the toilet...

[T. P. Pole]

Admit it, you live in Wisconsin but you're a transplant, right?

You caught me. Left the land of fruits and nuts some six years ago, and still can't understand the obsession with cabbage here.

Brats, however, I understand fully...

[T. P. Pole]

Somehow downing a third gives me constipation.

That's the point. The first two give you the runs.

At least, they do if you are eating them correctly...

[LadyDoc]

All you have to do is go to third world countries. A small percentage of people are healthy at 90. The bad news is most of the people taking low calories have what we doctors call "piss poor protoplasm". They are weak, have lousy immune systems, and die of minor infections.

Since these long lived rats don't come in contact with normal mice who have the mice versions of diarrhea, skin infections, or colds, of course they live longer.

So if you want to starve yourself to live longer, don't go outside or let anyone visit you who might have a cold...

[.38sw]

I took a look at that recipe - too much preparation time, and too many ingredients. If that is representative of what the evening meal recipes are like, then that diet is a sure failure at my house. Not to mention sweet potatoes in manicotti! Good heavens.

[theFIRMbss]

>I took a look at that recipe - too much preparation time, and too many ingredients.

According to Sears,
all that you need to do is
cut 40%

off a "typical"
healthy 2,500
calorie diet.

Eat any balanced
load of 1,700
calories per day.

If you think in terms
of lean meat and fresh veggies,
that's a lotta food.

For people who think
(as I once did) in terms of
burgers, donuts and

Mountain Dew, it is
nothing. I'm trying to get
better. But it's hard...

[Rudder]

Many thanks for the ping.

It would seem that this effect has been reasonably established. Why, then, have not the details been researched more vigorously?

There is Political Correctness even in science, albeit driven by a motive different from traditional partisan politcs, that simply will not allow entree to a radical finding---no matter how impecable the research design.

For example, consider the Nature vs Nurture fiasco on gender and sexual reassignment: Nature won--nurture cost a few kids their sanity (and genitals)---despite the Nurture-Bound scientists' bent toward a leftist, liberal agenda.

It took years, and much hardship for patients who were sexually reassigned as infants and who all failed in their doctor-imposed-but false-gender, to conclusively demonstrate the point:

Don't mess with Mother Nature.

[SamAdams76]

My wife's great-grandmother lived to be 101. She was an old-fashioned Italian who was always cooking and telling everybody to "Eat, Eat, Eat." She was "portly" all her life and was never thin. My paternal grandmother is still alive today at age 91, the same age as Ronald Reagan. She lives in Alabama and ate southern cooking all her life. She gets up at 4AM every day and fixes biscuits and gravy every morning. She chews tobacco (snuff) and makes the best fried chicken I've ever had.

SO I don't know what to make of this study. I guess if I can live to be into my 90s eating what I'm eating, I'll be happy enough.

So I don't know what to make of this here study.