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To: nanny
p>Now stick with me here. Your posts had everything to do with unions - now don't try to backtrack.

        The post you refer to had nothing to do with unions, but with whether anyone
         'deserves' not to lose their job if they haven't done anything 'wrong.'

If you want to debate - let's do it - but first you have to admit or 'own upto' what you said.

            If you are going to continue to lie, there will be no discussion.  The last
             post  suggests that with your view on jobs, you are closely associated
            with union membership.  Are you?

You made the statements the unions priced themselves out of the job market, etc.

When I asked what about non-union jobs - you said the article was talking about unionized industries.

                 The companies in the article, as I mentioned in another post, are
                  heaviliy unionized, ie, lumber, steel, smelting...

I replied I interpreted the article as speaking of jobs in general - so what about non-union jobs. You took exception to a word I used and accused me of being a democrat and a leftie.

               The belief that you deserve to keep a job because you didn't do anything
                wrong when a company restructures is a leftist, union mentality.

I asked again what about non-union jobs and you reply your post was not about union jobs -

                     No one except the self-employed 'deserves' their job.  Do you get it yet?

I keep trying to get you back to your original post and my original question. If you refuse to do that - then let's just don't debate.

                   This hasn't been a debate.  This has been you making excuses for
                    union excesses driving basic industries out of business in the US.


Now could we try again - since all the jobs lost were not union jobs - to what would you attribute their loss?And you are right your last post was not about unions - It was just more attacks and obfucation.

                 You haven't been attacked, just your silly notion that someone who
                  puts a lot of money at risk to create wealth somehow owes you
                  a job.  And I take it that you either have been a union member, are
                  one, or are married to someone who was.
23 posted on 12/26/2002 6:10 PM CST by nanny

26 posted on 12/26/2002 4:29:26 PM PST by gcruse
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To: gcruse
Just answer the question - why are we loosing non-union jobs? Do you know? If you don't know, have the class to say so. There is no need to accuse me of being a Democrat, Union member, lefty - just answer the question or say ' I don't know'. Simple.

Once again, stick with me here - I asked about non-union jobs -

27 posted on 12/26/2002 4:42:45 PM PST by nanny
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To: gcruse
Union, union, union. Everything boils down to nonunion or union in your distorted little world, eh?
Let us see...why would smelting (making things very hot), mining (going deep below ground), and timber (bringing very tall things down to earth), have in common?
Hmmmm....could it be that it is very easy to die at any of these jobs on any given day?
Hmmmm....now why would those jobs be heavily unionized?
Hmmmm....could it be the company's tried to take advantage of the employees and their families when said employees died or got injured on the job?
Nah, couldn't be.
Are you getting a crick in your neck from tilting at windmills?
28 posted on 12/26/2002 4:44:02 PM PST by dtel
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