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Just so this thread does not become a non-sequitor: Asmodeus successfully whined to the admin moderator to have my posts pulled for the heinous crime of "name derivation." I called him "Ass mode."

What a childish playground complaint! Apart from the fact that derivation is both hilarious approriate to the target, and that freepers should not be deprived of that hilarity, the Admin Moderator should be ashamed of wasting time on Asmodeus's whinge. Even the term "name derivation" reeks of public education PC and therefore should be soundly rejected in this forum. Can't you just picture your five year old being sent home with a note from a kindergaten counselor explaining that deriving a derogatory phrase from another child's name is now unacceptable on the playground?

The content of those posts accuses Asmodeus of:

a) Being a paid shill of Kreindler, as ambulance chasing nest of shysters. His response indicts himself.

b) Being a nutbag on par with Art Bell chemtrails enthusiasts for resting his theory on non-existent surveillance sat data tha puts an exploding TWA800 at an altitude that fits his preposterous theories. Such data was never published, and he never cites a source (other than maybe Elmer Barr, who is, in fact, Asmodeus).

c) Of, along with Kriendler, exploiting TWA800 victims for the sake of a lawsuit that is going nowhere.

His real motivation to complain is, of course, that he wants to keep these conclusions about his motivations out of fora like FR. "Name derivation" my ass. Elmer Barr was, by the way, banned from FR. So what is Asmodeous doing here if such bans have any meaning?

Name-derivations aside, there's plenty of controversy surrounding TW800. It is not settled in my mind, nor the minds of Boeing (nor its union, the Machinists) that the "fuel tank" theory is fact.

Never happened before, never happened again.

OTOH, there are people who state that a boatload of Middle Eastern nationals took off going east from Long Island in a rented powerboat before the plane went down. THere are even more who state that they saw a flash RISING on the eastern horizon before the plane went down.

THere is room for a conclusion of co-incidence, I suppose. But that has to be proven, too.

"resting his theory on non-existent surveillance sat data tha puts an exploding TWA800 at an altitude that fits his preposterous theories."

The source of the report of the satellite sighting of the Massive Fireball explosion "about 1 mile" above the surface is included in The "Missile Witnesses" Myth.

Additional confirmation of the low altitude of the Massive Fireball explosion is in the following Airborne Witness Matrix of NTSB Exhibit 4-A.

NTSB Airborne Witness Matrix

Also, witnesses Sven Faret and Ken Wendell clearly stated in their own personally prepared detailed report that the Massive Fireball explosion took place below their own flight altitude of 8500 feet and that they flew over to the smoke cloud it left and found that its top was at 7700 feet.

Additionally, New York Air National Guard Major Fred Meyer also clearly indicated in his own detailed report that the elapsed time between the first explosions he saw - which looked to him like an "ordnance" and the Massive Fireball explosion was only 3-4 seconds, leaving no room for doubt that all the explosions were in close proximity to each other. He further stated in his report that he and his helicopter crewmates all agreed that the falltime of the Massive Fireball flames to the surface was approximnately 10 seconds, an obvious impossibility if the Massive Fireball explosion had taken place anywhere near 13,800 feet as the "shootdown" conspiracy theorists erroneously assumed.

Witness Frederick C. Meyers' Own Press Graphic See "Source" At Lower Left

Note that the "ordnance" explosions were engulfed by the Massive Fireball explosion as further documented in graphic #5 of the following sequential graphics prepared by the New York Air National Guard after debriefing Major Meyer and his Jolly 14 helicopter crewmates.

NYANG Sequential Graphics

Incidentally, if the Moderators deleted your postings because of "name derivation", take it up with them. I've never even heard of that term.