[RLK]

I am somewhat of the opinion that the WACO incident was a "trail run" to see if the American will to resist HAD been reduced sufficiently so seizure could succeed.

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They pulled Waco and Ruby Ridge off successfuly in one sense. To this day the government, including Bush, has held nobody accountable and none of the primary culprits have paid any serious penalty. What put and end to more of it was the OKC bombing which, although it is not acknowleged, was in retaliation for Waco. The presence of unknown day care centers in the government headquarters created a public relations disaster that occluded everything else, including the reason for the bombing.

[Wonder Warthog]

"They pulled Waco and Ruby Ridge off successfuly in one sense. To this day the government, including Bush, has held nobody accountable and none of the primary culprits have paid any serious penalty."

Concur.

"What put and end to more of it was the OKC bombing which, although it is not acknowleged, was in retaliation for Waco."

Certainly OKC was in retaliation for Waco--how could anyone who reads/lived through it NOT know that. However, the earlier incidents stirred up such a hornets nest that OKC was not necessary, and in fact actually hurt the anti-statist movement by taking the pressure off the government and focussing it on the "militia" movement.