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To: Restorer; Allan
Can you really invade realms rightfully yours?

Would you deny Spain it's Reconquista?!
It took them 700 yrs.

Does the US have a "right" to the territory it now occupies,

Observe that this has nothing to do with US, but everything to do with Europe at that time and today. BTW the analogy could also be used against Turkey considering the Kurds etc.

As the posted article shows it's war between civilisations, were Christian cultures have been diminishing for several hundred years.
And yes I still claim the right of defence!
Though I agree with you on atrocities in general, the Turkish side have been indulged for centuries, with fanatic zeal trying to islamise every subdued entity.
Convince yourself if you bother going through #20.

the expulsion of the Anatolian Greeks bears a lot of semblance to the Israeli expulsion of the Palestinians Arabs.

Please elaborate?

Do Moslems have a legitimate right to live anywhere on Earth, in your eyes?

Rather naïve...
Indeed they have, in their own Muslim countries. In Christian countries as minorities yes, as would be masters no. That's kind of the whole idea of me writing this...

BTW, have you ever read about the atrocities committed by the advancing (and retreating) Greek Army in Anatolia?

No, but now I know.
What about the Christian Assyrians you find them scattered all over Europe, did they also have a retreating army? What atrocity did the Armenians commit?
Who remembers the Armenians Hitler once asked?

The Selcuk Turks had occupied most of Anatolia since the 12th century.

The word Byzantine, in fact, comes from "Byzantium," which is the Greek name for a city on the Bosphorus. The Greeks colonized the area first, in the mid-600's BC, even before Alexander the Great brought his troops into Anatolia (334 BC). Greek culture continued its influence long after the region became part of the Roman Empire, in the 100's BC. But it was when Roman emperor Constantine the Great moved the capital of the Empire from Rome to Byzantium and renamed it Constantinople (Istanbul today), in 330 AD, that the Byzantine Empire really began. It lasted over 1000 years, ending finally in 1453, when the Ottoman Turks conquered Constantinople and renamed it Istanbul.

Hittites 2000 B.C
3000 BC First settlement of Troy...

Historical claims are a giant worldwide can of worms. The only logical approach that will prevent fighting is to allow the present inhabitants to vote and abide by the results.

Here I completely agree with you, but Yugoslavia is an excellent example where exactly none of those ideas have been applied. WWII genocide in that area, which is not supposed to be a genocide. If 1000.000 killed mainly from one ethnicity that's surely going to change things and especially the outcome of any voting.
Then you have dishonest interference, veiled motives and intentions of Jewish and Turkish meddling in internal affairs; allbright, rubin, cohen, kanne-clark, kuoshner and hitlery in efforts to turkify the entire south eastern European peninsula.
Not very honest not to clearly display political and regional ambitions that clearly changes the population compound of the area.
The question still remains, how Lewinsky got to be where she was and who it was to remotely control Herr Klinton into action...
32 posted on 12/27/2002 1:49:50 PM PST by OriginalHeyduke
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To: OriginalHeyduke
3000 BC First settlement of Troy...

Troy, of course, was not a Greek city.

34 posted on 12/27/2002 2:28:40 PM PST by Allan
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To: OriginalHeyduke; FormerLib; crazykatz; katnip; don-o; a_Turk
Byzantium was the world's greatest empire. The Hagia Sophia is my next travel stop.

"By far the most significant building is the great church of HAGIA SOPHIA (Church of the Holy Wisdom) in Constantinople (532-37), which retained a longitudinal axis but was dominated by its enormous central dome. Seventh-century Syriac texts suggest that this design was meant to show the church as an image of the world with the dome of heaven suspended above, from which the Holy Spirit descended during the liturgical ceremony."

41 posted on 12/28/2002 7:13:10 PM PST by MarMema
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