[pgyanke]

> "Was it clear to you that the British Clergy were rejecting (1) rather than (2)?"

From the article: "There was nothing special about his birth or his childhood - it was his adult life that was extraordinary," he said.

It's clear they don't see anything remarkable about Jesus before the beginning of his ministry.

[ConsistentLibertarian]

When we're making a distinction between conception and birth, it doesn't help to quote their views on the birth as evidence for their views on the conception.