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Without my faith I would have nothing to work for or believe in.

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Without you faith I find much to believe in through observation and honest intellectual derivation. The process isn't easy and isn't for everybody.

Any God who demanded we totally abandon reality, observable fact,aka: TRUTH would NOT be god, but in fact THE DEVIL.

It is RELIGION that demands we abandon reality, for a hyper-emotional mind job, delivered by heavy handed interlocutors, AFTER they have picked our pockets via the tri-partate aegis of guilt, condemnation and emotional hyperbole.

I believe the bible. I believe in God. I LOVE Christmas. But the Jesus I know would not demand we abandon reality and reason, to be led astray by the "ravenous wolves" that have taken over, where he left off... blaspheming of course EVERYTHING he stood and stands for.

YOUR points are well taken. Most of what passes for religion today, as a ritual, blasphemes the very people who it claims were made in God's likeness... and then takes up an offering to help mitigate our shortcomings.

It's often just a glorified "hot dog" stand for guilty conscience... when we really need a meal of truth, to sustain us.

Why men walk out and don't come back?
We want reality, truth and the empowerment promised (as in in the TRUTH shall make you free) and are very dissappointed to find more bondage and corruption in the house of hypocracy than we get in a whole YEAR of honest, objective labor in the reality of TRUTH and EXPERIENCE in our daily lives.

When JESUS really shows up at a Church, I would be first to try and get in for a visit. In the meanwhile, I seem to find expressions of him, more abundantly in the things, situations and people I meet OUTSIDE the walls of the local "mauseleum" that passes for real CHURCH.

All form, NO substance, and an eternal abundance of lies and deception. Who has the time for it?