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Frist, healthcare are on rise Expertise is better fit with Bush, GOP
The Commercial Appeal/LATimes ^ | 12/22/02 | Ronald Brownstein

Posted on 12/22/2002 5:30:04 AM PST by GailA

Frist, healthcare are on rise Expertise is better fit with Bush, GOP

By Ronald Brownstein Los Angeles Times December 22, 2002

WASHINGTON - The emergence of Tennessee Republican Bill Frist as the incoming Senate majority leader marks another milestone in President Bush's efforts to reshape the face of the Republican Party.

Although the White House insisted it did not engineer Frist's rise, or the fall of Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott after making racially insensitive comments, one of Frist's principal assets in his sudden ascent was the widespread sense among Republicans that Bush preferred him for the job over Lott.

Frist, whose selection is expected to be finalized Monday, will align the image of Senate Republicans more closely with the White House because he is a better political fit with Bush than Lott.

Like Bush, Frist is conservative on most issues. But while Lott rarely ventured beyond a conventional conservative skepticism toward government, Frist is more in tune with Bush's idea of a reforming conservatism that looks to increase reliance on the private market to achieve social goals, but generally doesn't demonize government.

The change might be most vivid in health care, likely to be a major focus in the coming Congress and the 2004 presidential race. Over the past few years, Frist has been a leader in developing a conservative health care agenda, which has included proposals to use tax credits to cover the uninsured and a plan to fundamentally restructure Medicare.

With the White House embracing those ideas, Frist's rise is likely to give that agenda a new push. As a result, some Republicans think Frist could help the party close the historic Democratic advantage on health care issues much the way Bush's education initiatives - such as the education reform law of 2001 - have narrowed the gap between the parties on that front.

For Democrats, Frist presents a challenge much like House Speaker Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), the mild-mannered insider who succeeded former speaker Newt Gingrich, and Bush himself: All present largely conservative policies in a moderate tone much more acceptable to swing voters than the harder-edged voices who dominated the GOP in the immediate aftermath of their 1994 congressional takeover.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: billfrist; lott; tennessee
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To: cynicom
Free...Dont read things into what I post.

Good, so then you and I both agree that Frist has not been charged with or plead guilty to any crime.

Thanks

41 posted on 12/22/2002 9:32:59 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
First, the budget battle was in 1995, not 1996. The election was a long way off. Had the GOP played hardball more effectively, it would have won in 1995, thus forcing budget concessions long before the election. Even Clinton could not have waited them out to 1996! By the time of the 1996 elections, the GOP alleged threat to "shut down" would been forgotten but its victory against the deficit *would* be a potent election tool.

Public opinion is fickle and easily manipulated. A constant of public opinion during that period, however, was opposition to the "deficit" (remember Perot's popularity?). This was the GOP's hidden strength but it frittered it away needlessly.

Had the GOP scored a victory on the deficit front, it would have been rewarded by the time the dust had settled in 1996. Unfortunatly, the end result of the cave in was that the GOP lost all around. It failed to force concessions from Clinton *and* it was perceived as obstructionist. As a result, it was aimless in 1996 and we are still paying the price today!

In short, had the GOP been willing to bear the short-term political costs in 1995, it would have reaped a longer term victory in 1996. It chose, however, to squander and wate its majority instead of using it.

42 posted on 12/22/2002 9:37:33 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Frist's National Right to Life standing is 100%, his ACU life time standing is 88, last year it was 100%. Santorum's was 86 from ACU.
43 posted on 12/22/2002 9:38:54 AM PST by GailA
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To: sweetliberty
Yes, this is the generalized fear that I have with Frist.

Another is the fact that in regard to the size and power of government, Lott will appear to be a avid protector of the Constitution when placed along side Frist.

Senator Frist is likely to bring social spending to a new high. He will effectively take many of the Rat issues and mold them into the republican party.

I do not necessarily see this as a good thing. It will will help to win elections, but it will not help control a government that is growing faster than it's food supply.

Something will have to give way.

44 posted on 12/22/2002 9:39:05 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
"social spending to a new high." Perhaps but what is your evidence for this? Frist's rating from the authoritative National Taxpayers Union (which rates every vote against higher spending) is an excellent 84, higher than either Lott or Santorum. His rating is almost as high from the Republican Liberty Caucus. On basis do you argued that Frist will abandon this past anti-spending record and suddenly become a big spender.
45 posted on 12/22/2002 9:43:03 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: FreeReign
Incomplete -- not objective -- bad!

Correct, it is incomplete...he supported fetal stem cell research on already existing lines. I applaude the support of FSTR, and disgree with limitations, but that only applied to federal $. I would like to see a lot of research....without government money at all.

46 posted on 12/22/2002 9:55:05 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: DarthKosh
You forget - he is president of all Americans - Christian and non-Christian. He is president over a country of religious freedom - meaning - all religions - Christian and non-Christian.

He is NOT going to the UN for permission to protect ourselves - he is going to the UN to bring along other nations with us. As he has said - if the UN does not handle the problem - the US will. Doesn't sound like that is asking the UN to do anything other than make themselves relevant and act or get out of the way because we are.

He is not responsible for the tax cut problems - your democrat congress is responsible. This was all he could get until he got control of the Senate which he now has.

Another thing - the "coddling muslims" and "religion of peace" is to point out by the President of the U.S. that we are not going to war against the Muslims - but against terrorists who are of the radical Muslim fringe group. It is to point out that most Muslims are not of this fringe group but this group has become the face of the muslim religion causing public reaction against all muslims. Now - what would you expect a President of America to do? Allow incorrect public opinion and the reinforcement of our president to cause this war against terrorists to become a war against the whole muslim religion all over the world? Really smart that would be. We have enough trouble handling the terrorists without taking on 1/3 of the world.

Would suggest you consider what CAN be done with opposition from democrats and their votes before you chastise a republican president for his actions. You get as much as you can - that is how American politics works.
47 posted on 12/22/2002 10:21:08 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: Long Cut
(Rolling eyes....he DOES get tiresome, no?)
48 posted on 12/22/2002 10:28:26 AM PST by justshe
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To: MissAmericanPie; Scholastic
Don't you love the way these articles are phrased? I tend to go back and inject their real meaning in these puff pieces.

"As a result, some Republicans(code word for liberal RINOS) think Frist could help the party (become identical to the liberals) close the historic Democratic advantage on health care issues much the way Bush's (throwing his education plan overboard and stuffing Teddie's toe in his mouth) education initiatives - such as the education reform law of 2001 - have narrowed the gap between the parties on that front. (Yeah, gotta narrow that gap until the party is fully as socialist as the Democrats and makes itself unneccessary)

See how fun that is?


As always, you are exactly correct. Just about every health care reform bill now under consideration is a socialist powergrab to one extent or another. With few exceptions, they would amount to nothing more than "Hillary-Clinton lite" health insurance reform. Given Frist's moderate record on this and other issues, I am sure that his plan will be no exception.
50 posted on 12/22/2002 11:29:51 AM PST by rightwing2
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To: Long Cut
Do all paranoid demagogues use run-on sentences and poor language skills? Do they all also believe that their fears and innuendos constitute fact, absent any evidence? Give it a rest, Dave.

LOL! I don't even know you, friend, but apparently that doesn't prevent you from barking and growling at someone you don't know. Sounds like you and your fellow low-life anti-conservative attack dogs are getting increasingly jealous of the success of conservatives like me in publishing principled editorials in furtherance of the GOP congressional majority. Just keep sticking your head in the sand and ignoring reality, Fristbot. Maybe one day you and your anti-GOP RINO friends will get a life. Seems doubtful though...
51 posted on 12/22/2002 11:35:40 AM PST by rightwing2
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To: rightwing2; justshe; Amelia; Texasforever; Howlin
Yep, self-publishing always means success, doesn't it? Oh, and marking out to yourself, too. I wish I could have such a large ego...

"low-life anti-conservative attack dogs "

It's hilarious how YOU feel entitled to judge just whom is conservative. Someone elect you God lately, Dave? They have doctors who take care of that, perhaps your employer will even pay. I understand that the Pentagon has excellent health bennies for its employees.

"jealous of the success of conservatives like me in publishing principled editorials in furtherance of the GOP congressional majority. "

Don't bust me up with your so-called "success", there, Mr. Trump. And you've done NOTHING for the congressional majority the GOP has, save to rip at it at every turn. Oh, I forgot, that's to "save" it, right? Of course, by getting it kicked out of office, it will OF COURSE get stronger.

"Just keep sticking your head in the sand and ignoring reality, Fristbot. Maybe one day you and your anti-GOP RINO friends will get a life. Seems doubtful though...

Sigh. I guess we've now gone from delusions of grandeur to childhood regression. However, you'd probably be far more comfortable around schoolchildren than actual THINKERS. Good to see that you've learned no grammmar and sentence structure, though. AND that you STILL lead with your emotions.

You really need help, Dave. Seriously, we're all worried about you.

52 posted on 12/22/2002 11:53:23 AM PST by Long Cut
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To: FreeReign
Free....

You sure you are not a clintonite??

53 posted on 12/22/2002 12:20:53 PM PST by cynicom
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To: Wait4Truth
Wait...

Your figures seem a tad high, never the less, remember the saga of old George and his ratings??? Lot of people did'nt get over that one for awhile.

54 posted on 12/22/2002 12:24:44 PM PST by cynicom
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To: Austin Willard Wright
First, the budget battle was in 1995, not 1996. The election was a long way off. Had the GOP played hardball more effectively, it would have won in 1995, thus forcing budget concessions long before the election. Even Clinton could not have waited them out to 1996!

The polls back in 95 showed that the majority or people were taking Clinton's side in the budget battle as the R's were getting battered every day in the press. That was the thanks the R's were getting for making a serious attempt to downsize government.

We both agree that there was an R cave-in. However, I blame the electorate for the R cave-in of 95 -- you blame the R politicians.

Anyway, the same circumstances are now unfolding in 2003. Similar to 1996, the Clinton slime machine wants to elect a Clinton president in 2004. Check this latest "poll". It says the following;

"Americans by a huge margin, 62 percent to 34 percent, say it's more important for the government to provide needed services than to cut taxes."

Here we go again -- why should an R politician care about downsizing government in the face of these kinds of polls?

55 posted on 12/22/2002 12:32:29 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: cynicom
Swipe a billion tax dollars. Now I said TAX dollars, family biggest stockholders, sit on the board with total innocence,

Partial innocense -- what? Why don't you just come out and say Frist is guilty or innocent of your charges?

Free...Dont read things into what I post. Get up to speed on HCA.

Good, so then you and I both agree that Frist has not been charged with or plead guilty to any crime.

You sure you are not a clintonite??

All I've said is that Frist has not been charged or convicted of a crime. On the other hand, observe above how you twist and turn -- like a real Rat. You can't even honestly say that Frist has committed a crime. Instead, you insinuate that he has committed a crime, but you won't come straight out and say so.

56 posted on 12/22/2002 12:46:15 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Wait4Truth
>>>>>President Bush has the unflagging support of 95% of Republicans

Which means of course, if we are to believe that all the whinners on here are Republicans, the entire 5 percent that don't support him are all on Free Republic. Of course we all know better than to believe any of these people are Republican or conservatives.

57 posted on 12/22/2002 2:54:13 PM PST by Kath
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To: Founding Father
>>>>You're right. Nothing in these programs is authorized by the consatitution--shrub didn't fall too far from the bush did he?

No one but Democrats call the President Shrub. What's the matter not satisfied with bashing him on DU????

58 posted on 12/22/2002 2:56:25 PM PST by Kath
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To: ClancyJ
He never voted for Bush. He isn't fooling anyone.
59 posted on 12/22/2002 3:00:15 PM PST by Kath
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To: Jimer
>>>>>Did you ever vote for Bush? Did you ever vote for a Republican? Are you sorry you "didn't" vote for Gore? Did you vote for Gore? Do you have a screen name on DU or Salon.com?

Oh that's easy to answer. Let me do it for him. NO, NO, voted for Gore, yes, and yes. How's that???

60 posted on 12/22/2002 3:04:56 PM PST by Kath
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