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To: Terriergal
I'll leave the definition of "Human Life" to those much smarter than me. At this point, some of those people (The Supreme Court) have decided that women have the right to have an abortion.

That's why I argue that we need to "Change the Hearts and Minds" of women who do want to have an abortion...Teach them that the right thing to do is to not have one.

Screamng at them and calling them baby killers is not going to change their minds...Just scare them.

And you want to know the bottom line?

The right of a woman to have an abortion is NEVER going to be overturned. EVER! Thus, the NEED to "Change their hearts and minds".

The Pro-Life movement simply does not have enough support...And NEVER will. People in general may not like the idea of abortion but they do like the idea of having it available as an option. Therefore it will NEVER be "Outlawed". And anyone who is honest with themselves will agree with that.
138 posted on 12/26/2002 1:40:30 PM PST by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear
Screamng at them and calling them baby killers is not going to change their minds...Just scare them.

Oh I don't know. There is a time and place for everything.

I agree, hearts and minds need to be changed. But the change takes place in areas so much more encompassing than just the topic of reproduction. I don't know how we're supposed to do that when the foundations are crumbling, do you? I figure it's about time a large mountain fell into the sea and turned a third of the waters bitter, myself. And even that and all that follows won't change their minds.

139 posted on 12/26/2002 1:54:36 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Johnny Shear
I'll leave the definition of "Human Life" to those much smarter than me. At this point, some of those people (The Supreme Court) have decided that women have the right to have an abortion. That's why I argue that we need to "Change the Hearts and Minds" of women who do want to have an abortion...Teach them that the right thing to do is to not have one.

Screamng at them and calling them baby killers is not going to change their minds...Just scare them. And you want to know the bottom line? The right of a woman to have an abortion is NEVER going to be overturned. EVER! Thus, the NEED to "Change their hearts and minds". The Pro-Life movement simply does not have enough support...And NEVER will. People in general may not like the idea of abortion but they do like the idea of having it available as an option. Therefore it will NEVER be "Outlawed". And anyone who is honest with themselves will agree with that.

I so remember guys like you back in the Eightys. The got themselves so confident in Soviet detente, and were so convinced we could never actually beat the Russians, they actually fought against the Ronald Reagans for trying. It might make their Soviets buddies mad at us.

Well the truth of the matter is this: such quizlings just didn't have that much of a problem with our enemies.

You are content to leave definitions to "those much smarter than" you, so long as they don't conclude anything that contradicts you or your world-view.

Are you familiar with the term solipsism?

146 posted on 12/27/2002 1:09:02 AM PST by Woahhs
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