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To: exodus
A written contract to submit to a search or be denied a thing of value is force.

You are under no obligation to agree to that contract by buying a ticket, and hence it cannot be forced upon you. Freedom of contract is typically one of those sorts of things that libertarians point to when pining for the good old days, e.g. Lochner - surely you don't mean to suggest that people shouldn't be allowed to enter into contracts when buying an airline ticket?

A search before an intrastate flight is a Federal regulation, not allowed in the Constitution, and thus illegal under the law.

Would it make you feel better if the search were required and conducted by the local police?

Please notice that the law says that the Federal government can not do this, but the Federal government does it anyway.

A consensual search is hardly "unreasonable" under the 4'th Amendment. You are free to refuse to be searched at any time during the boarding process.

652 posted on 12/22/2002 1:56:34 AM PST by general_re
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To: general_re
A written contract to submit to a search or be denied a thing of value is force.
To: exodus
You are under no obligation to agree to that contract by buying a ticket, and hence it cannot be forced upon you. Freedom of contract is typically one of those sorts of things that libertarians point to when pining for the good old days, e.g. Lochner - surely you don't mean to suggest that people shouldn't be allowed to enter into contracts when buying an airline ticket?
# 652 by general_re
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A contract forced on a man by denying him access to a necessary thing if he refuses to sign is void under the law.

Even if the contract wasn't void, the Federal government can't have it's agents search people without reason. That's illegal.

674 posted on 12/22/2002 3:34:07 AM PST by exodus
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To: general_re
A search before an intrastate flight is a Federal regulation, not allowed in the Constitution, and thus illegal under the law.
To: exodus
Would it make you feel better if the search were required and conducted by the local police?
# 652 by general_re
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Of course not, general_re .

Local police aren't allowed to perform searches without reason, either.

675 posted on 12/22/2002 3:37:42 AM PST by exodus
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To: general_re
Please notice that the law says that the Federal government can not do this, but the Federal government does it anyway.
To: exodus
A consensual search is hardly "unreasonable" under the 4'th Amendment. You are free to refuse to be searched at any time during the boarding process.
# 652 by general_re
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You are free to quit your job if you don't want to be searched without reason.

You are free to give up your Hawaiian vacation if you don't want to be searched without reason.

You are free to lose your girlfriend because you didn't show up when she called for help, if you don't want to be searched without reason.

You are free to let your parent die without you at their side, if you don't want to be searched without reason.

Your definition of "free" needs a little work, general_re.

676 posted on 12/22/2002 3:43:43 AM PST by exodus
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