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To: exodus
Then buy your own plane - it's the very essence of libertarianism, if I do say. The fact that you are "required" to have some particular thing by some particular third party does not make it a right which you can expect the rest of the world to provide to you unencumbered. The fact that your employer requires you to fly does not magically make flying into an absolute right for you or your employer.

Travel is a right. It is not, and cannot be, an absolute and unregulated right. No rights can be absolute and unregulated in any society consisting of more than one person. This society has decided that you must consent to a search in order to fly on a commercial flight, a requirement perfectly in accord with the Constitution. Doing so does not violate your general right to travel, since you are free to seek other means if you object.

615 posted on 12/22/2002 12:43:22 AM PST by general_re
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To: general_re
To: exodus
"... This society has decided that you must consent to a search in order to fly on a commercial flight, a requirement perfectly in accord with the Constitution..."
# 615 by general_re
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You say that the Constitution allows random searches by government agents in private commercial airports?

You don't know what you're talking about.

"This society" didn't require searches in airports conducted by government agents. That illegal requirement was forced on us by our socialist government.

642 posted on 12/22/2002 1:33:14 AM PST by exodus
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To: general_re
To: exodus
"... No rights can be absolute and unregulated ..."
# 615 by general_re
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You have no idea what a right is, general_re .

Anything that can be regulated is not a right.

643 posted on 12/22/2002 1:36:20 AM PST by exodus
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To: general_re
Travel is a right. It is not, and cannot be, an absolute and unregulated right

Certainly it is.
Unless you have a warrant, you cannot detain me.

The opposite of detention is mobility.

706 posted on 12/22/2002 7:38:57 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: general_re
With respect to GOVERNMENT, our rights are and must be absolute. Our right to speak, to travel, to bear arms, and so forth, are absolute, else they are mere gooberment-granted privileges, to be regulated and revoked at whatever whim the local bureaucrap has... like is he constipated this morning or whatever. HOWEVER, in the PRIVATE exercise of my right to travel, I am subject to the rules of contract with another private party, should I wish to use their conveyance. It is NOT a fit and proper subject for FedGov unless fraud or coercion of some sort are involved. Same with ALL my rights. Do you see the difference or are you that wrapped up in the mantle of big gooberment that you feel IT has to grant me my daily privileges? If the latter, then you are no better than the Talibunnies or the jackasses who did 9-11.
1,079 posted on 12/23/2002 6:08:42 PM PST by dcwusmc
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