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Coffee,Tea,or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wifes Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell attheAirport?
lewrockwell.com ^ | 12/18/2002 | Nicholas Monahan

Posted on 12/21/2002 11:33:05 AM PST by Libertarian Billy Graham

 

Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife’s Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

by Nicholas Monahan

This morning I’ll be escorting my wife to the hospital, where the doctors will perform a caesarean section to remove our first child. She didn’t want to do it this way – neither of us did – but sometimes the Fates decide otherwise. The Fates or, in our case, government employees.

On the morning of October 26th Mary and I entered Portland International Airport, en route to the Las Vegas wedding of one of my best friends. Although we live in Los Angeles, we’d been in Oregon working on a film, and up to that point had had nothing but praise to shower on the city of Portland, a refreshing change of pace from our own suffocating metropolis.

At the security checkpoint I was led aside for the "inspection" that’s all the rage at airports these days. My shoes were removed. I was told to take off my sweater, then to fold over the waistband of my pants. My baseball hat, hastily jammed on my head at 5 AM, was removed and assiduously examined ("Anything could be in here, sir," I was told, after I asked what I could hide in a baseball hat. Yeah. Anything.) Soon I was standing on one foot, my arms stretched out, the other leg sticking out in front of me àla a DUI test. I began to get pissed off, as most normal people would. My anger increased when I realized that the newly knighted federal employees weren’t just examining me, but my 7½ months pregnant wife as well. I’d originally thought that I’d simply been randomly selected for the more excessive than normal search. You know, Number 50 or whatever. Apparently not though – it was both of us. These are your new threats, America: pregnant accountants and their sleepy husbands flying to weddings.

After some more grumbling on my part they eventually finished with me and I went to retrieve our luggage from the x-ray machine. Upon returning I found my wife sitting in a chair, crying. Mary rarely cries, and certainly not in public. When I asked her what was the matter, she tried to quell her tears and sobbed, "I’m sorry...it’s...they touched my breasts...and..." That’s all I heard. I marched up to the woman who’d been examining her and shouted, "What did you do to her?" Later I found out that in addition to touching her swollen breasts – to protect the American citizenry – the employee had asked that she lift up her shirt. Not behind a screen, not off to the side – no, right there, directly in front of the hundred or so passengers standing in line. And for you women who’ve been pregnant and worn maternity pants, you know how ridiculous those things look. "I felt like a clown," my wife told me later. "On display for all these people, with the cotton panel on my pants and my stomach sticking out. When I sat down I just lost my composure and began to cry. That’s when you walked up."

Of course when I say she "told me later," it’s because she wasn’t able to tell me at the time, because as soon as I demanded to know what the federal employee had done to make her cry, I was swarmed by Portland police officers. Instantly. Three of them, cinching my arms, locking me in handcuffs, and telling me I was under arrest. Now my wife really began to cry. As they led me away and she ran alongside, I implored her to calm down, to think of the baby, promising her that everything would turn out all right. She faded into the distance and I was shoved into an elevator, a cop holding each arm. After making me face the corner, the head honcho told that I was under arrest and that I wouldn’t be flying that day – that I was in fact a "menace."

It took me a while to regain my composure. I felt like I was one of those guys in The Gulag Archipelago who, because the proceedings all seem so unreal, doesn’t fully realize that he is in fact being arrested in a public place in front of crowds of people for...for what? I didn’t know what the crime was. Didn’t matter. Once upstairs, the officers made me remove my shoes and my hat and tossed me into a cell. Yes, your airports have prison cells, just like your amusement parks, train stations, universities, and national forests. Let freedom reign.

After a short time I received a visit from the arresting officer. "Mr. Monahan," he started, "Are you on drugs?"

Was this even real? "No, I’m not on drugs."

"Should you be?"

"What do you mean?"

"Should you be on any type of medication?"

"No."

"Then why’d you react that way back there?"

You see the thinking? You see what passes for reasoning among your domestic shock troops these days? Only "whackos" get angry over seeing the woman they’ve been with for ten years in tears because someone has touched her breasts. That kind of reaction – love, protection – it’s mind-boggling! "Mr. Monahan, are you on drugs?" His snide words rang inside my head. This is my wife, finally pregnant with our first child after months of failed attempts, after the depressing shock of the miscarriage last year, my wife who’d been walking on a cloud over having the opportunity to be a mother...and my anger is simply unfathomable to the guy standing in front of me, the guy who earns a living thanks to my taxes, the guy whose family I feed through my labor. What I did wasn’t normal. No, I reacted like a drug addict would’ve. I was so disgusted I felt like vomiting. But that was just the beginning.

An hour later, after I’d been gallantly assured by the officer that I wouldn’t be attending my friend’s wedding that day, I heard Mary’s voice outside my cell. The officer was speaking loudly, letting her know that he was planning on doing me a favor... which everyone knows is never a real favor. He wasn’t going to come over and help me work on my car or move some furniture. No, his "favor" was this: He’d decided not to charge me with a felony.

Think about that for a second. Rapes, car-jackings, murders, arsons – those are felonies. So is yelling in an airport now, apparently. I hadn’t realized, though I should have. Luckily, I was getting a favor, though. I was merely going to be slapped with a misdemeanor.

"Here’s your court date," he said as I was released from my cell. In addition, I was banned from Portland International for 90 days, and just in case I was thinking of coming over and hanging out around its perimeter, the officer gave me a map with the boundaries highlighted, sternly warning me against trespassing. Then he and a second officer escorted us off the grounds. Mary and I hurriedly drove two and a half hours in the rain to Seattle, where we eventually caught a flight to Vegas. But the officer was true to his word – we missed my friend’s wedding. The fact that he’d been in my own wedding party, the fact that a once in a lifetime event was stolen from us – well, who cares, right?

Upon our return to Portland (I’d had to fly into Seattle and drive back down), we immediately began contacting attorneys. We aren’t litigious people – we wanted no money. I’m not even sure what we fully wanted. An apology? A reprimand? I don’t know. It doesn’t matter though, because we couldn’t afford a lawyer, it turned out. $4,000 was the average figure bandied about as a retaining fee. Sorry, but I’ve got a new baby on the way. So we called the ACLU, figuring they existed for just such incidents as these. And they do apparently...but only if we were minorities. That’s what they told us.

In the meantime, I’d appealed my suspension from PDX. A week or so later I got a response from the Director of Aviation. After telling me how, in the aftermath of 9/11, most passengers not only accept additional airport screening but welcome it, he cut to the chase:

"After a review of the police report and my discussions with police staff, as well as a review of the TSA’s report on this incident, I concur with the officer’s decision to take you into custody and to issue a citation to you for disorderly conduct. That being said, because I also understand that you were upset and acted on your emotions, I am willing to lift the Airport Exclusion Order...."

Attached to this letter was the report the officer had filled out. I’d like to say I couldn’t believe it, but in a way, I could. It’s seemingly becoming the norm in America – lies and deliberate distortions on the part of those in power, no matter how much or how little power they actually wield.

The gist of his report was this: From the get go I wasn’t following the screener’s directions. I was "squinting my eyes" and talking to my wife in a "low, forced voice" while "excitedly swinging my arms." Twice I began to walk away from the screener, inhaling and exhaling forcefully. When I’d completed the physical exam, I walked to the luggage screening area, where a second screener took a pair of scissors from my suitcase. At this point I yelled, "What the %*&$% is going on? This is &*#&$%!" The officer, who’d already been called over by one of the screeners, became afraid for the TSA staff and the many travelers. He required the assistance of a second officer as he "struggled" to get me into handcuffs, then for "cover" called over a third as well. It was only at this point that my wife began to cry hysterically.

There was nothing poetic in my reaction to the arrest report. I didn’t crumple it in my fist and swear that justice would be served, promising to sacrifice my resources and time to see that it would. I simply stared. Clearly the officer didn’t have the guts to write down what had really happened. It might not look too good to see that stuff about the pregnant woman in tears because she’d been humiliated. Instead this was the official scenario being presented for the permanent record. It doesn’t even matter that it’s the most implausible sounding situation you can think of. "Hey, what the...godammit, they’re taking our scissors, honey!" Why didn’t he write in anything about a monkey wearing a fez?

True, the TSA staff had expropriated a pair of scissors from our toiletries kit – the story wasn’t entirely made up. Except that I’d been locked in airport jail at the time. I didn’t know anything about any scissors until Mary told me on our drive up to Seattle. They’d questioned her about them while I was in the bowels of the airport sitting in my cell.

So I wrote back, indignation and disgust flooding my brain.

"[W]hile I’m not sure, I’d guess that the entire incident is captured on video. Memory is imperfect on everyone’s part, but the footage won’t lie. I realize it might be procedurally difficult for you to view this, but if you could, I’d appreciate it. There’s no willful disregard of screening directions. No explosion over the discovery of a pair of scissors in a suitcase. No struggle to put handcuffs on. There’s a tired man, early in the morning, unhappily going through a rigorous procedure and then reacting to the tears of his pregnant wife."

Eventually we heard back from a different person, the guy in charge of the TSA airport screeners. One of his employees had made the damning statement about me exploding over her scissor discovery, and the officer had deftly incorporated that statement into his report. We asked the guy if he could find out why she’d said this – couldn’t she possibly be mistaken? "Oh, can’t do that, my hands are tied. It’s kind of like leading a witness – I could get in trouble, heh heh." Then what about the videotape? Why not watch that? That would exonerate me. "Oh, we destroy all video after three days."

Sure you do.

A few days later we heard from him again. He just wanted to inform us that he’d received corroboration of the officer’s report from the officer’s superior, a name we didn’t recognize. "But...he wasn’t even there," my wife said.

"Yeah, well, uh, he’s corroborated it though."

That’s how it works.

"Oh, and we did look at the videotape. Inconclusive."

But I thought it was destroyed?

On and on it went. Due to the tenacity of my wife in making phone calls and speaking with relevant persons, the "crime" was eventually lowered to a mere citation. Only she could have done that. I would’ve simply accepted what was being thrown at me, trumped up charges and all, simply because I’m wholly inadequate at performing the kowtow. There’s no way I could have contacted all the people Mary did and somehow pretend to be contrite. Besides, I speak in a low, forced voice, which doesn’t elicit sympathy. Just police suspicion.

Weeks later at the courthouse I listened to a young DA awkwardly read the charges against me – "Mr. Monahan...umm...shouted obscenities at the airport staff...umm... umm...oh, they took some scissors from his suitcase and he became...umm...abusive at this point." If I was reading about it in Kafka I might have found something vaguely amusing in all of it. But I wasn’t. I was there. Living it.

I entered a plea of nolo contendere, explaining to the judge that if I’d been a resident of Oregon, I would have definitely pled "Not Guilty." However, when that happens, your case automatically goes to a jury trial, and since I lived a thousand miles away, and was slated to return home in seven days, with a newborn due in a matter of weeks...you get the picture. "No Contest" it was. Judgment: $250 fine.

Did I feel happy? Only $250, right? No, I wasn’t happy. I don’t care if it’s twelve cents, that’s money pulled right out of my baby’s mouth and fed to a disgusting legal system that will use it to propagate more incidents like this. But at the very least it was over, right? Wrong.

When we returned to Los Angeles there was an envelope waiting for me from the court. Inside wasn’t a receipt for the money we’d paid. No, it was a letter telling me that what I actually owed was $309 – state assessed court costs, you know. Wouldn’t you think your taxes pay for that – the state putting you on trial? No, taxes are used to hire more cops like the officer, because with our rising criminal population – people like me – hey, your average citizen demands more and more "security."

Finally I reach the piece de resistance. The week before we’d gone to the airport my wife had had her regular pre-natal checkup. The child had settled into the proper head down position for birth, continuing the remarkable pregnancy she’d been having. We returned to Portland on Sunday. On Mary’s Monday appointment she was suddenly told, "Looks like your baby’s gone breech." When she later spoke with her midwives in Los Angeles, they wanted to know if she’d experienced any type of trauma recently, as this often makes a child flip. "As a matter of fact..." she began, recounting the story, explaining how the child inside of her was going absolutely crazy when she was crying as the police were leading me away through the crowd.

My wife had been planning a natural childbirth. She’d read dozens of books, meticulously researched everything, and had finally decided that this was the way for her. No drugs, no numbing of sensations – just that ultimate combination of brute pain and sheer joy that belongs exclusively to mothers. But my wife is also a first-time mother, so she has what is called an "untested" pelvis. Essentially this means that a breech birth is too dangerous to attempt, for both mother and child. Therefore, she’s now relegated to a c-section – hospital stay, epidural, catheter, fetal monitoring, stitches – everything she didn’t want. Her natural birth has become a surgery.

We’ve tried everything to turn that baby. Acupuncture, chiropractic techniques, underwater handstands, elephant walking, moxibustion, bending backwards over pillows, herbs, external manipulation – all to no avail. When I walked into the living room the other night and saw her plaintively cooing with a flashlight turned onto her stomach, yet another suggested technique, my heart almost broke. It’s breaking now as I write these words.

I can never prove that my child went breech because of what happened to us at the airport. But I’ll always believe it. Wrongly or rightly, I’ll forever think of how this man, the personification of this system, has affected the lives of my family and me. When my wife is sliced open, I’ll be thinking of him. When they remove her uterus from her abdomen and lay it on her stomach, I’ll be thinking of him. When I visit her and my child in the hospital instead of having them with me here in our home, I’ll be thinking of him. When I assist her to the bathroom while the incision heals internally, I’ll be thinking of him.

There are plenty of stories like this these days. I don’t know how many I’ve read where the writer describes some breach of civil liberties by employees of the state, then wraps it all up with a dire warning about what we as a nation are becoming, and how if we don’t put an end to it now, then we’re in for heaps of trouble. Well you know what? Nothing’s going to stop the inevitable. There’s no policy change that’s going to save us. There’s no election that’s going to put a halt to the onslaught of tyranny. It’s here already – this country has changed for the worse and will continue to change for the worse. There is now a division between the citizenry and the state. When that state is used as a tool against me, there is no longer any reason why I should owe any allegiance to that state.

And that’s the first thing that child of ours is going to learn.

December 21, 2002

Nick Monahan works in the film industry. He writes out of Los Angeles where he lives with his wife and as of December 18th, his beautiful new son.

Copyright © 2002 LewRockwell.com

     

 

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To: Poohbah
"When I am trying to determine if someone is completely off their rocker, I look for certain clues.
Some of these clues are:

An inordinate fascination with the Uniform Commercial Code as some sort of political theory.
An inordinate fascination with viewing their own dreams as some sort of infallible guidepost to future events.
An inordinate fascination with "The Missing Thirteenth Amendment."
The folks who get worked up over a gold fringe on the flag in the courtroom.
The folks who whine about how Abe Lincoln stole their great-great-grandpa's slaves.
And the beat goes on...
But that's just me :o)"

I'm sure you'll be jumping with joy the day that anyone who suggest that we have inalienable rights guaranteed under the Constitution is declared mentally incompetent and is sedated into submission.

You remind me of the BATF mouthpieces traveling around the country with their "Homeland Security" symposiums at taxpayer expense telling local LEOS that the Founding Fathers were terrorist.
861 posted on 12/22/2002 3:11:57 PM PST by TaZ
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To: Poohbah
So far.
862 posted on 12/22/2002 3:12:38 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: EricOKC
You'll note, prior to the early 70's there were no hijackings of any airliner anywhere in the world.

The first reported hijacking of an airplane was in Peru, in 1931. The first in the US was in 1961. Between 1958 and 1967, there were 50 hijackings worldwide. So says the old Encyclopedia Britannica...

863 posted on 12/22/2002 3:18:53 PM PST by general_re
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To: EricOKC
Oh yeah. 30 years of trouble-free air travel enabled the first glut of hijackings.

No, the lack of security protocols enabled various political and religious fanatics to hijack airplanes when the idea first became visible.

The muslims just simply couldnt handle the idea that people were traveling freely and had to stop it.

The Muslims saw a weakness and took advantage of it. You're merely proposing to reinstate that weakness in its totality.

As far as your eight shooters BS, its pretty much a red herring and you know it.

No, it isn't. Eight trained men who have worked together long enough to form what's known as a "primary group" will have no problems pulling the trigger...but all those "militias of one" will frequently hesitate, and hesitation on close-quarters battle is death.

Those same eight people could overwhelm the airplane even if everyone else on it was armed, and trained to prevent it.

You have 400 or so people who are varying degrees of stranger to one another, but that degree will usually be quite high. One thing I can safely predict under such circumstances is that a lot of the shootings will be blue-on-blues, thus making the job of the eight villains that much simpler.

You're not going to have 400 trained people working as a cohesive team on the defense end.

It would all depend on tactics.

Contrary to what Hollyweird teaches, training and tactics must be developed by a team working as a cohesive whole for more than fifteen minutes' worth of screen time.

864 posted on 12/22/2002 3:31:49 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: TaZ
I'm sure you'll be jumping with joy the day that anyone who suggest that we have inalienable rights guaranteed under the Constitution is declared mentally incompetent and is sedated into submission.

No, I'll be jumping with joy the day that you actually learn how to read and comprehend the English launguage.

You remind me of the BATF mouthpieces traveling around the country with their "Homeland Security" symposiums at taxpayer expense telling local LEOS that the Founding Fathers were terrorist.

You remind me of the protagonist in Robert Heinlein's Coventry, before he got what he was asking for.

BTW, you've claimed that the BATF is telling local LEOs that the Founding Fathers were terrorists. Please produce a quotation supporting that claim.

865 posted on 12/22/2002 3:35:23 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
"BTW, you've claimed that the BATF is telling local LEOs that the Founding Fathers were terrorists. Please produce a quotation supporting that claim."

I've seen footage smuggled out by a LEO who secretly videotaped one such presentation...the scoundrels responsible have been very careful to keep this under wraps.
866 posted on 12/22/2002 3:52:52 PM PST by TaZ
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To: TaZ
I've seen footage smuggled out by a LEO who secretly videotaped one such presentation...the scoundrels responsible have been very careful to keep this under wraps.

Ah, yes. There is "secret video footage" that only YOU have seen.

Forgive me for not believing you.

867 posted on 12/22/2002 4:07:29 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Somehow, I don't think Libertarian Billy Graham has his facts straight.

First of all, I quoted Doug Casey, who, in turn, cited a July 20th Reuters news report. The news report is cited here on another website.

Almost as amazing as the blind obedience to illegitimate authority that many are expressing in response to this story, is how you guys will spend hours dealing with irrelevant minutia connected to this story instead of the main issues.

You'll spend hours debating how many tanks Bush wants to use on you, but not a minute on what he's going to do to you with them.

You'll spend hours debating the incompetence of the Fred and Ethel Mertz security guards but not a minute even acknowledging the crimes of several layers of cops documented in this story.

Oh, by the way, in the July 20th Reuters story, the author actually wondered what Bush was going to do with tank battalions in America:

July 20, 2002WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A few days after President Bush's release of a homeland defense strategy calling for the domestic use of U.S. military forces, the U.S. activated 300-Army National Guard tank battalions as part of a homeland defense force

In a statement released Saturday, president Bush said, the Battalions are equipped with modern battle tanks, the M1A1 Abrams" and "will serve in the homeland defense role within the United States."

Bush, commander-in-chief of the Armed forces, did not say what role the tank battalions would serve in homeland defense.

In addition to the tank battalions, the supreme commander activated 500 Air force fighter-bomber squadrons to patrol the U.S. packing full ordnance looking for terrorists, also 1000 Special Forces units were activated and will be deployed around the country to start door to door searches for suspicious people "in support of the war on terrorism," Bush said.

Asked about the massive deployments of tanks and choppers, what role they would play in a domestic deployment, Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Robert Horton said: "That can't be discussed. It all will depend on the mission."

Though he said he could not provide specifics, Horton said the activation was linked to Bush's quest for use of U.S. military forces on the home front.

The deployment will only last a few years, Horton said.

868 posted on 12/22/2002 4:08:43 PM PST by Libertarian Billy Graham
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To: Poohbah
"Ah, yes. There is "secret video footage" that only YOU have seen.

Forgive me for not believing you."

I hate to plug Alex Jones, but it's also in his video "9-11, The Road to Tyranny" if you want to check it out for yourself.
869 posted on 12/22/2002 4:12:24 PM PST by TaZ
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To: general_re
"Okay. Have it your way. But if you're not willing to put an argument out there, you really have no grounds for complaint when you're mostly ignored..."

That's OK, I'm in good company.

A friend of mine, Dr. Eugene Schroder advised me long ago not to get in arguments with statist...
870 posted on 12/22/2002 4:15:53 PM PST by TaZ
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham; general_re
First of all, I quoted Doug Casey, who, in turn, cited a July 20th Reuters news report.

Blaming others for your own ignorance is pretty lame.

In addition to the tank battalions, the supreme commander activated 500 Air force fighter-bomber squadrons

Assuming that the Air Force squadron TO&E is roughly similar to the USMC one, that's 6,000 fighter-bombers. We don't have that many tactical aircraft in the whole damn Air Force!

And 1,000 Special Forces units? Snicker, chuckle...

Almost as amazing as the blind obedience to illegitimate authority that many are expressing in response to this story, is how you guys will spend hours dealing with irrelevant minutia connected to this story instead of the main issues.

If you can't get the very basic facts right, and won't take ownership of where you're ignorant, then why should I accept your analysis of the "main issues," or even your identification of what the "main issues" actually are?

871 posted on 12/22/2002 4:22:14 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: TaZ
hate to plug Alex Jones, but it's also in his video "9-11, The Road to Tyranny" if you want to check it out for yourself.

If Alex Jones has a videotape featuring this, then it's a pretty reasonable guess that its realism is on a par with WWE Smackdown!

872 posted on 12/22/2002 4:23:55 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Happygal
"I believe in conservatism."

Right....
873 posted on 12/22/2002 4:24:28 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Poohbah
BTW, I got the info from a group of Constitutional patriots who happen to be US Marshals...you see I happen to know a LOT of LEOs personally and professionally who are totally freaked out by what is happening behind the scenes in America...

They also told me that once the BATF found out that the cat was "out-of-the-bag", they pulled the "Founding Fathers were terrorists" rhetoric from the presentation...sometime earlier this year.

I'm sorry Poohbah that it's so hard for your little mind to grasp the concept that there are bad people in the US Gov't., but it doesn't mean they don't exist...
874 posted on 12/22/2002 4:29:00 PM PST by TaZ
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To: TaZ; Poohbah
I've seen footage smuggled out by a LEO who secretly videotaped one such presentation...the scoundrels responsible have been very careful to keep this under wraps.

That didn't take long. Got another one for the list - Those who maintain a secret video library containing smuggled video footage of clandestine LEO meetings.

875 posted on 12/22/2002 4:34:02 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: TaZ
BTW, I got the info from a group of Constitutional patriots who happen to be US Marshals...you see I happen to know a LOT of LEOs personally and professionally who are totally freaked out by what is happening behind the scenes in America...

Uh-huh. Yup. I'm sure they just happen to be US Marshals.

They also told me that once the BATF found out that the cat was "out-of-the-bag", they pulled the "Founding Fathers were terrorists" rhetoric from the presentation...sometime earlier this year.

Which makes a convenient excuse for why no one ELSE has heard the rhetoric.

I'm sorry Poohbah that it's so hard for your little mind to grasp the concept that there are bad people in the US Gov't., but it doesn't mean they don't exist...

I agree. You're sorry. Specifically, you're a very sorry excuse for a human being.

876 posted on 12/22/2002 4:36:02 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: RGSpincich

And bulletized.

877 posted on 12/22/2002 4:36:35 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: RGSpincich
My personal favorite - Those who attempt to arrest judges in their own courtroom.

I must admit, that's not easily surpassed.

878 posted on 12/22/2002 4:41:45 PM PST by dighton
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To: Poohbah
I hate to say it, but your mind is so closed I'm afraid your not able to receive any information outside of your preconceived notions.

If you weren't such an atrocious example of a human being, I might even invite you to my office in the pressroom in Manhattan Federal Court and introduce you to some REAL Americans, but I think they are better off not knowing you.

FYI, the US Marshals service is on the same floor as the pressroom @ USDC SDNY...
879 posted on 12/22/2002 4:44:37 PM PST by TaZ
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To: TaZ
I hate to say it, but your mind is so closed I'm afraid your not able to receive any information outside of your preconceived notions.

No, I just expect slightly more evidence than a videotape being offered by one of the more whacked-out "patriot" hucksters in America.

If you weren't such an atrocious example of a human being,

Do NOT get it started with me, you will not like the results.

I might even invite you to my office in the pressroom in Manhattan Federal Court and introduce you to some REAL Americans, but I think they are better off not knowing you.

Ooh, I'm supposed to be impressed that you have an office in the Manhattan Federal Court? Why is it that I'm finding it harder and harder to believe you?

FYI, the US Marshals service is on the same floor as the pressroom @ USDC SDNY...

That's nice. Thank you for your input.

880 posted on 12/22/2002 4:48:16 PM PST by Poohbah
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