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To: DouglasKC
The roots of Christmas are undoubtedly and clearly pagan and bible forbids God's people from participating in pagan ceremonies. It's a form of idol worship.

Clearly stated and accurate.

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The religious holidays of today are entirely man created, not God created.

Your approach to this debate is much more instructive. I tend to chide 2sheep a little, because he takes such a condemnation approach to the issues. Yours is more from a perspective of conviction.

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The religious holidays of today are entirely man created, not God created.

Likewise, "morals" are entirely man created. Morality is a deceptive replacement for the avoidance of sin. If you are following Christian doctrine that is based on the Scripture, you are supposed to be led by the conviction of the Holy Ghost, not by the man made idols of "morality."

257 posted on 12/25/2002 6:24:50 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Likewise, "morals" are entirely man created. Morality is a deceptive replacement for the avoidance of sin. If you are following Christian doctrine that is based on the Scripture, you are supposed to be led by the conviction of the Holy Ghost, not by the man made idols of "morality."

That is an excellent analysis and was very instructive. Why do you consider yourself an athiest?

262 posted on 12/25/2002 8:51:00 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; DouglasKC; ALS; Eagle Eye
>Your approach to this debate is much more instructive. I tend to chide 2sheep a little, because he takes such a condemnation approach to the issues. Yours is more from a perspective of conviction.

The more scripture is used, the more you are offended.  It looks like your real beef may with the Author of Life Himself.  I can understand rejecting as false the lifestyle of hypocritical, apostate Christianity.  There is, however, a real Jesus...Yeshua...who will meet personally those who recognize and serve Him as L~rd and savior, putting Him first above the things of the world and do things His way.  Check out v. 17-19 below:

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

270 posted on 12/25/2002 7:21:22 PM PST by 2sheep
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