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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; 2sheep; ALS; DouglasKC
It is also an informal fallcy to say becuase it cannot be proven, it must be true. Fallacy of accident. You are also not immune to it, sir...

I don't know where you got the idea that I was trying to use the absence of celebrating Christmas in the Scriptures to prove that it must be celebrated. I merely pointed out the serious logical flaw of saying that if celebrating Christmas is not mentioned in the Bible then it must, ipso facto, be a sin. That's the kind of faulty thinking that evidently passes for logic with 2sheep, ALS, and DouglasKC.

Besides, one could make a very good argument that the angels singing songs of praise, the wise men bearing gifts, and the sheperds coming to worship was indeed the first celebration of Christmas.

227 posted on 12/24/2002 9:20:20 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike
I don't know where you got the idea that I was trying to use the absence of celebrating Christmas in the Scriptures to prove that it must be celebrated.

That is a mis-characterization of my statement. The absence of instruction to either celebrate it or not to celebrate Christmas as it is currently practiced is not an advocacy to do so.

I really care not how it is seen from a point of sectarian perspective. I think both sides of this discussion have, in certain respects, engaged in tactics of condemnation rather than a persuit of expressing conviction of belief.

With that said, I also see this as a good natured debate among friends and political allies about philosophy, theology and it is intellectual stimulation. We need this to develop tactics that will defeat our common enemies. Just keep it friendly. Heated, but friendly. At the end of the day, we should all be able to sit down and have a beer together and tell jokes or unite in war against those who would destroy our freedom to discuss such topics.

228 posted on 12/24/2002 9:51:39 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: DallasMike; ALS; DouglasKC; Eagle Eye; Sir Francis Dashwood
>I merely pointed out the serious logical flaw of saying that if celebrating Christmas is not mentioned in the Bible then it must, ipso facto, be a sin. That's the kind of faulty thinking that evidently passes for logic with 2sheep, ALS, and DouglasKC.

We did not say that!  Your saying we did is a lie.  Stop changing what people say and then accusing them of what you think they say because you don't understand.

229 posted on 12/24/2002 11:57:40 AM PST by 2sheep
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To: DallasMike
I merely pointed out the serious logical flaw of saying that if celebrating Christmas is not mentioned in the Bible then it must, ipso facto, be a sin. That's the kind of faulty thinking that evidently passes for logic with 2sheep, ALS, and DouglasKC.

I am certain that I never stated that the absence of Christmas in the bible made celebrating it a sin. That's an absurd propostion on it's face. Thanksgiving is an acceptable holiday because it was created for the express purpose of giving thanks to God.

The roots of Christmas are undoubtedly and clearly pagan and bible forbids God's people from participating in pagan ceremonies. It's a form of idol worship. Putting other god's before God. Pagan gods in this case.

God being a just and loving God sanctified and blessed certain days, holy days, that were to be used to honor, commemerate, learn and fellowship with him. These are the days that he gave to us in the bible. The religious holidays of today are entirely man created, not God created.

251 posted on 12/24/2002 9:14:24 PM PST by DouglasKC
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