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You're wrong because you failed to explain where "christian traditions" came from.

You need to re-read my post where I explained Christians gathering together during Saturnalia and what they did. I mentioned gifts, food and singing.

Neither Christ nor His apostles or the 1st church participated in these pagan practices, so it doesn't take a slide rule to figure out from whence they came.

I do not recall where scripture indicates Christ or his apostles participated in sporting tournaments either. The Olympics originated in pagan greece. The athletes competed nude. There was a strong current of homosexuality and pagan fertility associated with the games. Does that mean Christians should not participate in track and field competition or the the olympics? Did you read my previous post about the necktie? Did you read in my post about celebratory toasting? If you are going to be legalistic, don't do so in a cafeteria style picking and choosing. Quit wearing neckties. If you're out at a banquet and your manager stands up and offers a toast to you for a job well done, get up and walk away. Don't have any part in such pagan practice. Don't be inconsistent in your legalisms.

The bible lays out principles for living The fact that you used the word "tradition" shows that these rituals were either made up or just continuations of previous heathen rituals.

When referring to traditions, please be more specific. Actually, here's a short list for you to respond to:

A. Getting together with friends and family.

B. Enjoying special meals with friends and family.

C. Exchanging gifts.

D. Singing.

E. Decorations. Before you go into a long thesis about evergreens inside the house, do you have any plants inside your house?

If His birthday was such an important event, why did neither He nor any of his followers observe it? The answer is because it was a pagan practice to celebrate yourself.

If birthdays weren't important, why is so much of the bible devoted to detailed geneologies? Christ lived to be 33 1/2 years old so, his birthday was obviously once known and tracked although shortly after the gospels it was lost in history.

Also, birthday parties are typically held by friends and family for the person having the birtday. I do agree celebrating oneself is wrong.

The bible makes it clear throughout to not do as the heathens do.

I already went into this and expect that you are consistent in your legalism and do not wear a necktie, that you neither give nor allow yourself to be the recipient of a toast and that you avoid sporting activities, especially track and field events.

Am looking forward to your reply.

You're wrong because you failed to explain where "christian traditions" came from.

You need to re-read my post where I explained Christians gathering together during Saturnalia and what they did. I mentioned gifts, food and singing.
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Neither Christ nor His apostles or the 1st church participated in these pagan practices, so it doesn't take a slide rule to figure out from whence they came.

I do not recall where scripture indicates Christ or his apostles participated in sporting tournaments either. The Olympics originated in pagan greece. The athletes competed nude. There was a strong current of homosexuality and pagan fertility associated with the games. Does that mean Christians should not participate in track and field competition or the the olympics? Did you read my previous post about the necktie? Did you read in my post about celebratory toasting? If you are going to be legalistic, don't do so in a cafeteria style picking and choosing. Quit wearing neckties. If you're out at a banquet and your manager stands up and offers a toast to you for a job well done, get up and walk away. Don't have any part in such pagan practice. Don't be inconsistent in your legalisms.
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C'mon now, you can't be serious here. It doesn't say to drive an Isuzu to church either. Your argument here, no matter how sincere, does not really deserve serious discussion. As for legalism. I don't advocate legalism, which is essentially just more traditions. I do advocate keeping God's laws. Legalism is not even what I believe in nor does the bible advocate legalism. If anything, it denies it.

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The bible lays out principles for living The fact that you used the word "tradition" shows that these rituals were either made up or just continuations of previous heathen rituals.

When referring to traditions, please be more specific. Actually, here's a short list for you to respond to:

A. Getting together with friends and family.

B. Enjoying special meals with friends and family.

C. Exchanging gifts.

D. Singing.

E. Decorations. Before you go into a long thesis about evergreens inside the house, do you have any plants inside your house?
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A. The traditions I was referring to were ritualistic traditions that circummvent or attempt to replace what God already had in place. Not just a continuation of pagan practices shrouded in slick labels.
B. Evergreens? I know where you are going with this, and again, you assign to me visions of others.
C. Exchanging gifts is also an ancient pagan practice and a distortion of what the "wise men" where doing. They came to honor a king, not celebrate a birthday.
D. One doesn't need a pagan hollowday to get together with friends and family.
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If His birthday was such an important event, why did neither He nor any of his followers observe it? The answer is because it was a pagan practice to celebrate yourself.

If birthdays weren't important, why is so much of the bible devoted to detailed geneologies? Christ lived to be 33 1/2 years old so, his birthday was obviously once known and tracked although shortly after the gospels it was lost in history.

Also, birthday parties are typically held by friends and family for the person having the birtday. I do agree celebrating oneself is wrong.
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A birthday is celebrating yourself. If you don't agree that is good, then why do you do it? Also, it's quite a stretch to say that since people are born, birthays are ok. I once watched an astrolger apply the same logic. Since God created the planets then astrology is godly, the moron touted.
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The bible makes it clear throughout to not do as the heathens do.

I already went into this and expect that you are consistent in your legalism and do not wear a necktie, that you neither give nor allow yourself to be the recipient of a toast and that you avoid sporting activities, especially track and field events.
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Reading your post makes me wonder if you don't fear "legalism" so much, you exclude anything related to "keeping the law". Which would not be the wisest thing a person could do. Balance is a good thing.

Am looking forward to your reply.