[Reaganwuzthebest]

I have a hard time understanding how men such as yourselves can allow anyone to manipulate you.

No one is manipulating me Ben, I make up my own mind on things. Illegal immigration is illegal because well, it's against the law. If you want to debate legal immigration... who we take in, how many, for what purpose, fine. But illegal immigration for me is not debatable, how can it be? I mean, what laws can I break and get away with?

Btw, please correct me if I'm wrong, but are you a police officer? I'm asking because there's a Ben on other forums who speaks like you and is one.

[Ben Ficklin]

I was exposed to an illegal 50 years ago at the age of 8. In my lifetime it has always been a fact of life. There are many, many citizens of this country who at one time were illegal.

Now you and others may see this as wrong but it has always been that way and it will likely continue.

[SCalGal]

I mean, what laws can I break and get away with?

I, also, want to know which laws we, as citizens, are not required to obey. We should know up front which laws we can break and not be penalized for so that we may plan accordingly.