Marxism -- secular B.S.
To: Apolitical
Where marxism/liberalism came from...
That's the case with the Darwinists in the United States. The majority of the people are skeptical of the theory. And if the theory starts to waver a bit, it could all collapse, as Napoleon's army did in a rout."
"They have... lost(link)---a big one."
"They're like Napoleon's army in Moscow. They have occupied a lot of territory, and they think they've won the war. And yet they are very exposed in a hostile climate with a population that's very much unfriendly."
To: Apolitical
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Marxism: The New Secular Religion of the Left...."
B S !
Nothing "new" about it.
3 posted on
12/21/2002 4:49:07 AM PST by
G.Mason
To: Apolitical
rote catechisms based on myth, allegory and wishful thinking, and the need for an irrational leap of faith on the part of true believers in order to ignore the belief's many internal contradictions, corruption of logic, and divorce from historical reality. Yep. That's the left alright - to a T !!!!
To: Apolitical
The unfortunately reality, however, is that the most fervid practitioners of this secular faith dominate our institutions of higher learning............And their most lethal product is the armies of brainwashed young automatons whom they churn out with machine-like predictability -- "useful idiots" cluelessly spewing the hate-America cant of anti-imperialism, anti-globalism and radical environmentalism......................... Which is why school choice is so important (thanks for caving, Bush!). We stop it now, or forever hold our peace.
To: Apolitical
I've made this argument before when defending atheism... that Marxism (whose massive body count is usually attributed to atheism on those "What has killed more people, religion or atheism" threads.)
Having said that, however, I don't really like to conflate Marxism with religion because once you do that, you can say that practically any worldview is a religion of sorts. So in strict terms, nowdays, if I have to take a stance, I'd prefer to stipulate that religion must include a belief in the supernatural, which Marxism lacks.
Although some say that Marxism's "ideal man" is god-like (which I think is a modern day Nietzscheanism added to Marxism.... I'm not a philosopher) but I would say no, it's an abstract idea but that's not automatically supernatural.
To: Apolitical
Marxism: The New Secular Religion of the Left.... New????
I have to disagree.
It's not new for the left at all.
8 posted on
12/21/2002 5:47:12 AM PST by
machman
To: Apolitical
Like I've always said Marx was a Jackass.
To further round out the dicussion...
Definition of Dysfunctional Groupthink Behaviors:
Illusions of Invulnerability - Members believe that abilities and decisions of the group are without flaw or beyond reproach.
Assumed Unanimity - The group assumes that all members agree to proposed alternatives. This may occur because of a rush to closure or because member agreement is not truly sought.
Self-Righteousness - The group creates an inflated sense of its moral superiority over outside groups. It views its own principles and behavior as ethical or "answerable to a higher authority"
Self-Suppression of Dissent - Dissenting members remain silent to avoid conflict or risk of belonging.
Mind-Guards - Some members play the role of "gatekeeper," making sure that contrary external information does not reach and disrupt the group's activities.
Direct Pressure - The group actively pressures members who challenge the dominant opinion and eventually ostracizes those who do not conform.
Rationalization - Incongruent information or warnings are shown to be weak or flawed and thus are discounted or dismissed.
Ref: Luthans Virtual Org Behavior Groups and Teams - S.M. Sommer
This is why being conservative (of independant mind) is difficult and being liberal (going along to get along) is so easy.
Eddie01 "Liberals Lie About Everything all the Time.
To: Apolitical
The "proselytising" of our college youths would not be an issue if actual History were taught in secondary education, instead of the mind-mush that is and has been taught. It would not be difficult to point out the historical "rewards" of Marxism.
Even when I went to school, in the mid 60's, we were not taught any of the artrocities committed by the Communists, our avowed enemy. Two days worth of lessons would be enough to innoculate most students against the teachings of our leftist professors.
I majored in History and Political Science with the intention of teaching at the secondary level. While substitute teaching recently, I looked at the cover of the U.S. History book, on which were portraits of six or seven (I assume) historical figures. I could only identify three of them. Someone is being or was taught a different History. It was terribly difficult to teach all of American History effectively in one short year. Now teachers are expected to make History classes half "inclusions" (this was laid down by the History professor who taught us how to teach History). I never had the sense to ask him which half of the real History we were to discard.
To: Apolitical
Marxism--secular B.S. Marxism involves the greatest appeal for a secular morality. To talk against it is easy, to think against it involves more than the self.
20 posted on
12/21/2002 10:46:32 AM PST by
cornelis
To: Apolitical
To: Apolitical
New?
To: Apolitical
environmentalism allows a new generation of leftist morons to believe they represent "scientific progress" against the slackjawed "religious right."
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