Study: Playboy models losing hourglass

CNN ^ | 12/20/02

[areafiftyone]

LONDON, England -- A study of almost 50 years of Playboy centrefolds has revealed that the characteristic differences between men and women are becoming less pronounced.

Researchers at universities in Canada and Austria compared height, weight, bust, waist and hip measurements of 577 models from issues of the adult magazine dating from 1953 to 2001 and found they had become less shapely and more androgynous.

[areafiftyone]

Well us full-figured girls have been saying that for years. The fashion industry has dictated how the body should look since the 60's and women have followed it. Full figured women are now considered fat. Its amazing how gay fashion designers who do not like the woman's figure have conformed it into a man's shape. That's pretty scary. Marilyn Monroe in her prime would be considered obese by fashion standards today.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

There's already a 360 something post thread on this but if the guys keep the pictures coming I say let's start over.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

...in 1950 the average woman weighed about eight-and-a-half stone...

What's that in fahrenheit?

[Oldeconomybuyer]

There's already a 360 something post thread on this but if the guys keep the pictures coming I say let's start over...

 

Rosa DeLauro

Playmate of the Month - June, 1971

[areafiftyone]

Oh man - now I have to clean my keyboard!! Just had lunch - oh well it was good going down. Not too good coming up.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Gaack! Choke!
Not like that!

[wardaddy]

Geez...i bet I oogled her back then stealing my dad's Playboys as a 13 year old.

[Rummyfan]

The ideal body? These reports are always so far off the mark! Who ever thought Twiggy had the ideal body? I will have to go back and research the Playboys from 1953 to present to give an informed opinion on this matter. But judging from this month's issue (I confiscated it from my son) I'd say the authors are wrong.

[Intimidator]

Thats just nasty, and to think I probably choked the old chicken looking at her in my dads old playboys in my puberty years. aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhh

[areafiftyone]

LOL - Happy looking!!

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Actually this topic wasn't a complete waste. I learned something. I always thought the mexican woman in High Noon was named Helen Twelvetrees. I went to look up a pic to post and was shocked to find out i've used the wrong name all these years. No wonder nobody ever knew who I was talking about. The right name is Katy Jurado.

Can't find a pic or I would post it. Always thought she was the most beautiful woman.

[stationkeeper]

Sweet Jesus.....as i scrolled thru the thread that face hit me like a bucket of freezing water.

[Mr. Bird]

Yet by the 1960s, models like Twiggy had already slimmed down to 32-22-32. In the 1970s, the ideal body was typified by Jerry Hall, and in the 1980s by Cindy Crawford. Yet by the 1990s the controversial emaciated look of "heroin chic" made Kate Moss (33-23-35) famous.

I'm sorry, but they're just making this crap up. First of all, there's a lot of fluctuation there, Twiggy to Hall to Crawford to Moss (almost a circle). I don't see a trend at all. Secondly, since when is Kate Moss considered the ideal? Controversial indeed, nearly everyone on the planet knew Moss was a Calvin Klein creature, and not the preference of the American Man.

Third, if you use Moss, you gotta use Anna Nicole Smith, a Rubenesque figure if there ever was one, who was quite famous as the Guess Girl for a few years. And what of Pamela Anderson, a VERY curvy girl (even if surgically altered) who remains in many respects the standard of current American hottie-ness.

They also omit the obvious: Hugh Hefner is the absolute authority on who gets to be Playmate and who doesn't. The only conclusions one can draw from studying the centerfolds are those about Hefner's tastes, not the society at large.

[KarlInOhio]

...in 1950 the average woman weighed about eight-and-a-half stone...

What's that in fahrenheit?

119 lbs. (14 pounds / stone)

Where can I sign up to work on advanced scientific research like this?

[Marauder]

http://www.3continents.com/pdf/katy_jurado.pdf

Here's a place for a photo. I agree that she was a stone fox in her day. Oddly enough, she passed away this year.

[Camachee]

I'll bet that if the average red blooded American male had a choice between watching the sexless models from the Victoria's Secret special or any randomly chosen episode of Bay Watch, the full-figured women on Bay Watch would win 90% of the time...or more!

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Thanks, but I can't see it.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Found her. Had to page down a bit. Do you know how to save her for a desktop pic from a pdf doc?

[oldcomputerguy]

This trend has nothing to do with gay fashion designers influences. This trend is the result of men becoming interested in women who do not look like women and the reason for that is that men have grown to hate women over that time.

This trend was precipitated by the rise of feminism, Title 9, and the concurrent emasculation of men in this generation.

This is not some axe I have to grind, but a carefully formed statement that is the result of 20 years of informal cultural analysis on my part. The next logcal step in this progression is already in progress with the ongoing and accelerating assault on children as they are the ultimate non-women. The large aging male BB population plays into this trend too.

[areafiftyone]

You know, being a female I can't really argue with you. You may very well be right. I just went with a gut feeling I had. Years of clothes shopping kinda gave me the idea about fashion being alot of the cause of the trend. When I was a kid in the 70's I was able to buy clothes in the regular sizes that fit me. Now my size is considered (large women) or should I be blunt - FAT LADY SIZES!. My size is a 14 but I am not a small boned woman and not a short woman either. So I don't look overweight and am not looked on as fat by people who see me. But according to the Fashion industry I AM OBESE!!! I could not find any reason for this turn around over the years except the dictates of gay Fashion designers with a hatred of the female body (hourglass figure). By their calculatons I should be a size 4-6. Now the only way I can be that size is if I decided to do bone reduction surgery because the width of my hip bones will not every let me get into a size 4.