To: Desecrated
Oh, I get it. You convinced me it's all Israel's fault.You miss the point. Imagine two people are brawling. You step in the middle of the brawl and get hit. You can blame the guy that hit you, but you can't act shocked at the results of choosing to be in the middle of a fight.
It's not in the best interest of the US to have a democratic ally in a sea of facist, religiously insane nation-states.
How has it served our interest? It has cost us billions of dollars, thousands of American lives to date. Tell me, what is the interest we've paid for with all this money and blood?
My apologies, Osama. Just keep your head buried in the sand. Everything will be OK.
Just name call and fer chrissakes don't question anything that's happening. Just stick your head up your ass and dream about 'payback' for all our dead - not that they get to cash in on it. Everything will be OK once we trade in neutrality, peace and freedom for allies, war and police state. Once they get a wall in place on our border, and a policeman checking our papers at every corner, then we'll be safe. Almost as safe as the people wise enough not to involve themselves in this mess...
To: Gunslingr3
Slinger, the myth of America's historical neutrality has been disproved over and over.
Besides, historically, neutrality does not protect one from aggression. What about the Barbary Pirates? They seized our merchant vessels and captured our sailors. Our provocation? Commerce with Europe.
Or Pancho Villa and his attacks across the border into the US? President Wilson had simply allowed a convoy of Carrancistas move through US territory to resupply an outpost.
America has always stood as an exporter of democracy. We have been conducting interventions throughout the world, for over 200 years, in an attempt to promote democracy, and of course, American interests. In the 19th century alone, US Marines landed over 110 times in various countries in the western hemisphere, to promote American ideals and American interests.
And I, for one, can think of no better mission for America. America was founded with this mission: protecting republican ideals in the United States, and exporting these ideals to the world.
This does not mean the US should go crusading, toppling every non-democratic government in the world. What does mean it? Two points:
1) America should encourage the development of liberal democracies through-out the world
2) America should support and protect those democracies and nations whose ideals mirror our own
I believe that Israel is one of the few countries that warrant this protection from the United States. If America, the first bastion of freedom, and now the strongest power in this world, does not defend freedom and democracy worldwide - who will?
18 posted on
12/20/2002 1:16:43 PM PST by
AFCdt
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