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To: Gophack
I salute you for taking the steps you have taken when your children were born. We did the same when our children were born.

Frist's history on abortion is conflicting (he has said that he is "personally pro-life but" thinks abortion should remain legal, then flipped and said he was pro-life except rape, incest, life of mother.)

Flipped? So you don't think someone can become more pro-life? You don't think a person can have a moral or spiritual enlightening on this issue?

HCA is a major provider of abortions, including late-term abortions...

Assuming facts not in evidence. As another poster pointed out, Dr. Tiller has his own abortuary, and he has admitting privileges at the local HCA hospital. If you read his web site carefully, you would have seen that he has been in private practice and running his own abortion clinic since the mid-70's. He hasn't been on the staff of the local HCA hospital since 1980 (and we don't know if it was owned by HCA at that time.) In other words, the only association George Tiller has with Bill Frist is that over 20 years ago, he used to be on the staff of a hospital that may or may not have been owned at the time by a company that was owned by the brother and father of Bill Frist. BTW, Tiller has his own clinic, he doesn't do abortions at the HCA hospital...

Your list from St. Antonius does not state in what way HCA funds abortions, but from looking at the pamphlet, it seems to use a very broad definition for "funding abortion". Just to give you how broad that definition is, the pamphlet only lists 2 corporations that can be considered "pro-life": Carls Jr. and Dominos Pizza. So if you are going to be a pure pro-lifer, you'd better like hamburgers and pizza, because according to these people, if you do business with any other major corporation in America, you are supporting abortion. The Tennessee Right to Life website uses the same sources to declare HCA an abortion supporter, but also does not specify what criteria are used to make this determination.

I'm sorry, but your research so far just seems to be repeating what other groups have said, without providing any supporting documentation to back it up. No has yet provided any facts to substantiate a claim that HCA is a "major provider of abortion services."

543 posted on 12/20/2002 4:04:14 PM PST by CA Conservative
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To: CA Conservative
Thank you for clarifying the information I posted. I in no way meant to mislead, I skimmed the site and it appeared the Tiller said he was presently the medical director of HCA Wesley. I'll re-read the information.

Yes, I believe that someone can have a change of heart on abortion. Many people have, including abortionists. I hope and pray Frist is with us. I looked at his pro-life rating, and it's solid over the last two years.

Still, there is evidence that HCA provides abortions at some of their hospitals. I don't believe Frist should be profiting off these abortions. I will continue to look into this, particularly if he is elected Majority Leader.

Finally, there are other good people mentioned as being up for Leader like Santorum and Inhofre (sp??). I think they should be looked at as well.

God bless.

546 posted on 12/20/2002 4:30:29 PM PST by Gophack
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