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To: Siobhan
More research:

Tiller and botched abortion at HCA Wesley: HERE

Boycotts for Life list HCA as pro-abortion

A non-Catholic Christian organization lists HCA as performing abortions See here

Another site that links HCA to abortion: HERE

More to come later ... have to pick the kids up at school.

489 posted on 12/20/2002 11:37:34 AM PST by Gophack
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To: Gophack
Dear Gophack,

The link about Tiller and the botched abortion and HCA seems to tell a story about an abortionist who botched an abortion at his abortuary. The woman whose child was being murdered was rushed to the emergency room of an HCA, where the abortion was completed.

It appears that the woman would have died without the emergency room services.

There is no indication that the baby could have been saved at this point.

The other criticism leveled at the HCA hospital in this case is that it was supposedly "covered up". Apparently, the hospital made some efforts to keep the whole thing private.

That may have been the wish of the woman who was admitted.

That a hospital saves the lives of women who have had botched abortions is flimsy evidence that the hospital is "pro-abortion". The other links just say how evil is HCA, without really telling me specifically why.


sitetest
508 posted on 12/20/2002 12:29:52 PM PST by sitetest
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To: Gophack
Dr. Tiller specializes in 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions and is the medical director for HCA Wesley in Wichita, KS.

Disgusting individual with thirty years' history aborting babies, but the resume on his website states the following for the Wesley Medical Center (which I assume later became an HCA hospital, since it's later mentioned as HCA Wesley):

1970 - 1975
Chairman, Medical Records, Utilization, Pharmacy Committee - Department of Family Practice

1974 - 1980
Executive Committee Medical Staff

1979 President, Medical Staff

TEACHING EXPERIENCE
1970 - present Clinical Instructor Family Medicine Residency, Wesley Medical Center/HCA Wesley
1973 - 1975 Volunteer Community Supervising Physician - Family Practice Residency - Wesley Medical Center
1976-Present - Clinical Instructor, Department of Family and Community Medicine - Wichita State Branch, University of Kansas School of Medicine
Present - University of Kansas School of Medicine - Wichita State Branch / HCA Wesley Medical Center

So according to this, he's now a teacher at the University of Kansas School of Medicine. But he's also the director of that Women's Health Care clinic, which performs third-trimester abortions, and which does not appear to be affiliated with HCA (it's not on their website)

Tiller and botched abortion at HCA Wesley: HERE

The abortion was botched in a clinic, and completed in HCA Wesley after the woman was rushed there in an ambulance. I don't know why this organization finds it suspicious that the hospital will not release her name or condition. The son of a good friend was in the hospital recently, and the hospital wouldn't tell ME anything either. It was not my business, and not my right to know.

What would convince me that Frist should divest is evidence that elective abortions are performed, since HCA's status as a for-profit hospital would mean they are "making money off of abortion" even if said abortion was a medical necessity. I wish these boycott lists would state a little more than "abortions performed" as the reason, since nearly all hospitals will perform them under certain cirumstances (which is worse--charging money for an emergency abortion, or deeply discounting an elective one?). I have to make a distinction between elective and non.

Oh, and if they had mandatory abortion training in their teaching hospitals (if they own any) even when the law doesn't require it (as it soon will here); that would also convince me.

Otherwise I'm still going to think of this article as highly deceptive and aimed right at Frist.

523 posted on 12/20/2002 2:36:28 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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