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Some of what is said here makes sense. But there is a problem. What Sullivan did was take a job at the Washington Times. Who among you want to deny him this? If so what writing jobs are you going to permit to do and why.

IMHO, this is an employment issue. No question about it, biologically and statistically homosexuality is not normal and the gays and the lesbians dispute this. Even my own professional association, American Psychiatric Association, disagrees with my convictions. But is preventing Sullivan from writing for a newspaper a way to solve the argument? I think not.

I think the homosexuals want to be accepted as they are in society. Unfortunately, their in-your-face-I-am-as normal are has resulted in an identity "politics" war. In the meantime, homosexuals are going to need jobs, places to live, religious institutions and everything else we desire and need. Neither the Constitution or common sense leaves much of an alternative

Neither the Constitution or common sense leaves much of an alternative

Thomas Jefferson on Sodomy

Sect. XIV. Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy* with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least.

* Paragraph 25. H. 8. C. 6. Buggery is twofold. 1. With mankind, 2. With beasts. Buggery is the Genus, of which Sodomy and Bestiality, are the species. 12. Co. 37. Says, "note that Sodomy is with mankind." But Finch's L. B. 3. c. 24. "Sodomiary is a carnal copulation against nature, to wit, of man or woman in the same sex, or of either of them with beasts." 12. Co. 36. Says, "it appears by the ancient authorities of the law that this was felony." Yet the 25. H. 8. Declares it felony, as if supposed not the be so.... B. Fleta, L. i. c. 37. says, "pecorantes et Sodomitae in terra vivi confodiantur." The Mirror makes it treason. Bestiality can never make any progress; it cannot therefore be injurious to society in any great degree, which is the true measure of criminality in foro civili, and will ever be properly and severely punished, by universal derision. It may, therefore, be omitted. It was anciently punished with death, as it has been latterly. Ll. Aelfrid. 31. and 25. H. 8. c. 6. see Beccaria. Paragraph 31. Montesq.

Peterson, Merrill D. "Crimes and Punishments" Thomas Jefferson: Writings Public Papers (Literary Classics of the United States, Inc. 1984) pp. 355, 356.

The penalties for violating sodomy laws in the USA:

Idaho, 5 years to life

Oklahoma, 20 years

Michigan, 15 years

Mississippi, 10 years

Puerto Rico, 8 - 20 years

Louisiana, 5 years/$2000

South Carolina, 5 years/$500

North Carolina, 3 years

Virginia, 1-5 years

Alabama, 1 year/$2000

Missouri, 1 year/$1000

Kansas, 6 months/$1000

Utah, 6 months/$299

Florida, 60 days/$500

Texas, $500

I believe in live and let live. I think that most Americans do, also. The hang ups I have with the gay activists is their political agenda and their deafing silence on child predators. A sizeable number of molestations are by gay men. There are even gay activists who are pushing for more than just tolerance, they are advocating acceptance to the point of special minority status. Some gay activists are even driving the agenda of lowering the age of consent.

All in all, the gay activists are largely anti-Christianity. Having a half a dozen or so verses in the Bible that speak against homosexuality is the primary reason. The agenda by these gay acivists here is to neutralize Christian belief and moral implementation. The Christian ethic is the biggest single factor for America being Great and that is what they are attacking.