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U.S. Still Intervening Against Democracy in Venezuela
Knight Ridder/Tribune Information Services ^ | 18 December 2002 | Mark Weisbrot

Posted on 12/19/2002 8:20:59 AM PST by Zviadist

CARACAS (Dec. 18) "Where are they getting their money?" asks historian Samuel Moncada, as the television displays one opposition commercial after another. Moncada is chair of the history department at Central University of Venezuela in Caracas. We are sitting in one of the few restaurants that is open in the eastern, wealthier part of Caracas.

For two weeks during this country's business-led strike, the privately owned stations that dominate Venezuelan television have been running opposition "info-mercials" instead of advertisements, in addition to what is often non-stop coverage of opposition protests.

"I am sure there is money from abroad," asserts Moncada. It's a good guess: prior to the coup on April 11, the U.S. National Endowment for Democracy stepped up its funding to opposition groups, including money funneled through the International Republican Institute. The latter's funding multiplied more than sixfold, to $340,000 in 2001.

But if history is any guide, overt funding from Washington will turn out to be the tip of the iceberg. This was the case in Haiti, Nicaragua, Chile, and other countries where Washington has sought "regime change" because our leaders didn't agree with the voters' choice at the polls. (In fact, Washington is currently aiding efforts to oust President Aristide in Haiti -- for the second time). In these episodes, which extended into the 1990s, our government concealed amounts up to the hundreds of millions of dollars that paid for such things as death squads, strikes, economic destabilization, electoral campaigns and media.

All this remains to be investigated in this case. But the intentions of the U.S. government are clear. Last week the State Department ordered non-essential embassy personnel to leave the country, and warned American citizens not to travel here. But there have not been attacks on American citizens or companies here, from either side of the political divide, and this is not a particularly dangerous place for Americans to be.

In this situation, the State Department's extreme measures and warning can only be interpreted as a threat. The Bush Administration has also openly sided with the opposition, demanding early elections here. Then this week Washington changed its position to demanding a referendum on Chavez's presidency, most likely figuring that a divided opposition could easily lose to Chavez in an election, despite its overwhelming advantage in controlling the major means of communication.

The discussion in the U.S. press, dominated by Washington's views, has also taken on an Orwellian tone. Chavez is accused of using "dictatorial powers" for sending the military to recover oil tankers seized by striking captains. Bush Administration spokesman Ari Fleischer urged the Venezuelan government "to respect individual rights and fundamental freedoms."

But what would happen to people who hijacked an oil tanker from Exxon-Mobil in the United States? They would be facing a trial and a long prison sentence. Military officers who stood outside the White House and called for the overthrow of the government (and this just six months after a military coup supported by a foreign power) would end up in Guantanamo facing a secret military tribunal for terrorism.

In fact, the U.S. press would be much more fair if it held the Venezuelan government to the standards of the United States. In the U.S., government workers do not have the right to strike at all, as Ronald Reagan demonstrated when he summarily fired 12,000 air traffic controllers in 1981. But even this analogy is incomplete: the air traffic controllers were striking for better working conditions. Here, the employees of the state-owned oil company -- mostly managers and executives -- are trying to cripple the economy, which is heavily dependent on oil exports, in order to overthrow the government. In the United States, even private sector workers do not have the legal right to strike for political demands, and certainly not for the president's resignation.

In the United States, courts would issue injunctions against the strike, the treasuries of participating unions would be seized, and leaders would be arrested.

Meanwhile, outside of the wealthier areas of eastern Caracas, businesses are open and streets are crowded with shoppers. Life appears normal. This is clearly a national strike of the privileged, and most of the country has not joined it.

More than anything right now, this country needs dialogue and a ratcheting down of the tensions and hostilities between the two opposing camps, so as to avoid a civil war. But this dialogue will never happen if the United States continues to pursue a course of increasing confrontation.

Mark Weisbrot is Co-Director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, in Washington D.C.


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To: Zviadist
>>we have a constitutional process to achieve this<<

Man, you really did not study American history, did you? Are you even American?

He just quoted the Declaration of Independence to you -- written by Thomas Jefferson -- who believed that the Tree of Liberty was nourished by the blood of tyrants.

There is no constitutional process for getting rid of tyrants.

The Declaration of Independence was a declaration of war.
41 posted on 12/19/2002 10:31:46 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: A. Pole
"illegitimately", "regardless of outward appearances", "expansionists ambitions"? Could you elaborate, please?

No.

42 posted on 12/19/2002 10:36:46 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Zviadist
Marxists like Chavez take over governments and subvert or destroy the democratic process turning it into a sham.

There is no solution except to throw them out, by force, if need be.

>>So what makes you any better than them?<<

What makes me better than Allende, the Sandinistas, and Chavez? Is that a serious question?

I'm not a murderous kleptocrat running a thugocracy, that's what makes me better than them.

43 posted on 12/19/2002 10:37:37 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Zviadist
Why are you commenting on this thread if you have no idea how Chavez was elected to power? The elections were declared free and fair by both domestic and international monitors.

I comment because it thrills me to be educated by the likes of you. Those international monitors weren't a group led by Jimmy Carter, were they?

44 posted on 12/19/2002 10:39:34 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Zviadist
If the Venezuelans want to destroy themselves with socialism, that is their business. They have the right to have any kind of country they want. Do you understand the nature of our struggle against Soviet expansionism?

Moral relativism is actually a working principle in relations between governments, and there leftists want a black vs. white world. (Of course, it is easy to use propaganda to convince people who is wrong and who is right.)

Moral relativism is an absolute disaster for individuals and always results in self-destruction. Here, leftists want everything to be shades of gray.

"Democracy" is not a virtue, it is a system of government that can be and often is thwarted by such things as vote fraud and propaganda.

Self-determination is desirable, but not always possible. South Africa and Zimbabwe would be much better off with a lot less self-determination.

The Golden Rule is a most excellent way for individuals to deal with each other, but it is insanity to propose that governments follow that standard.

45 posted on 12/19/2002 10:50:27 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Zviadist
Chavez is behaving contrary to the constitution he sponsored. He is refusing to obey his own laws.

The country went on strike because the opposition gathered enough signatures for a referendum on Chavez but he refused to allow it.

“Even if 90% vote against me, I won't resign,” he said.
46 posted on 12/19/2002 10:54:23 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Zviadist
If the Venezuelans want to destroy themselves with socialism, that is their business.

I don't think it's as simple as that. It's not as if all Venezuelans agree with socialism, or that simple things like roads or public works are being voted on. You have one segment of Venezuela choosing, by electoral processes, to loot and possibly enslave another segment.

This doesn't necessarily justify U.S. intervention, but I think we need to have a clear picture of what is trying to be stopped.

48 posted on 12/19/2002 11:06:35 AM PST by timm22
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To: BillinDenver
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers.

This is the key word, I think.

49 posted on 12/19/2002 11:08:11 AM PST by timm22
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To: BillinDenver
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Looks like an awful lot of people in Venezuala aren't consenting.

Next you are going to say that Hussein has the consent of the Iraqi people. After all, he was just elected in a landslide.

50 posted on 12/19/2002 11:09:35 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Zviadist
Typical leftist tactic.

You should know.

54 posted on 12/19/2002 11:18:19 AM PST by Stultis
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To: BillinDenver
Gimme a break. Hussein was never elected. He seized power in a US sponsored coup, just like the Shah of Iran.

Maybe you should keep up with current events. He was elected unanimously.

Venezuala's constitution calls for a referendum in August. Why resort to a coup when the referendum is only 9 months away, and Chavez already said he would support it.

What, now you are against the Venezualan people practicing self-determination? Make up your mind.

55 posted on 12/19/2002 11:19:01 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: alloysteel
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
56 posted on 12/19/2002 11:24:15 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: Zviadist
Here's a clue: it's their oil.

Correction, it's Chavez' oil now.

Or don't you believe in the principle of private property and ownership?

And as Chavez runs roughshod (with military force) over the principle of private property, what do you do? Cover your eyes and ears, or cheer him on in estatic socialist glee?

59 posted on 12/19/2002 11:29:10 AM PST by Stultis
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To: BillinDenver
Dictatorship and democracy are not necessarily polar opposites.

The point is: democracy is not a good, in and of itself. It is only a good when it is implemented in a way that guarantees and protects the natural rights of citizens.

60 posted on 12/19/2002 11:32:31 AM PST by B Knotts
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