White House: Saddam Missed 'Last Chance'

Yahoo News ^ | 12/18/02 | Ron Fournier - AP

[UnBlinkingEye]

Why do you want an empire?

I think America serves best as an example to the world, not the ruler of the world.

[Robert_Paulson2]

Of course its okay.. even necessary.

You don't think it's "okay"?
If not, WHY?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

How will history remember the doctrine of preemptive attack on nations that have never threatened us? My suggestion for a title is 'The Rise and Fall of the American Empire'.

What would constitute a threat to you? An anthrax cloud over NYC? The Bush Administration is in posession of plenty of intel to define Iraq as a serious threat to our security, to which we have every right to respond. In addition, Iraq, having violated the agreement that ended the Gulf War, is open to whatever actions that the US and Allies deem appropriate. This is not about oil, which is available elsewhere in sufficient quantities to meet our current and future requirements. Your argument needs work.

[UnBlinkingEye]

Iraq put the pistol in their mouth, by attacking Kuwait

We gave them a nod and a wink from the State Department, they fought a proxy war for us on Iran, the Kuwaiti 'Royalty' was, perhaps drilling into Iraq oil fields with new technology. All of these 'nations' are creations of the West, hated by the people.

[LdSentinal]

How will history remember the doctrine of preemptive attack on nations that have never threatened us?

Last time I check Afghanistan poised no direct threat to us in 1996.

[McCloud-Strife]

weather we like it or not, America has become the policeman for the world. You hate, them, you depise them you thing bad things about them, until you need them, then they are "heros".
Why do I want what you call an "Empire"? You just for the fun of it are not going to run out and try to take down a fully Armed Marine, why? because you know he'll kick the snot out of you... if your lucky. You know police do not roll up on a bank robbery unarmed, and hope rational discussion, peace and love will prevail. Because I do not want 3000 more civilians to be vaporized by yet another attack on some tall building. Because I do not want 7 million folks living in New York City being evaporated by some derainged funatic with a nuke. Because I don't want English to become an extinct language and American culture studied in museums after the second dark age was over. Because I want to live in a place with adequte police and military rather than none and so will anyone else with 2 brain cells to rub together.

You want to call America an Empire, evil, foul intented, greedy, corrupt, that's great, fantastic, you want to try doing any protesting In China, North Korea, Russia or even Iraq and see if you wind up at the tender mercies of a professional rapist or the guy who can do wonders with car batteries and your genitals. We're not perfect, we can do better, but you think of any place in the world past or present that has it right? I sure as hell can't think of better

[UnBlinkingEye]

Last time I check Afghanistan poised no direct threat to us in 1996.

Last time I checked, we armed, funded and trained the Taliban to defeat the Soviet Union.

[UnBlinkingEye]

Why do I want what you call an "Empire"? You just for the fun of it are not going to run out and try to take down a fully Armed Marine, why? because you know he'll kick the snot out of you... if your lucky.

I don't want to 'take down Marines', but anyone who focused on that objective would likely succeed. Why not remove Marines as targets for terrorism?

[EGPWS]

The "last chance" comment evoked Bush's warning in November that should Saddam deny possessing weapons of mass destruction "he will have entered his final stage with a lie." Officials said that final stage begins Friday, when Bush issues his formal assessment, and could end in war several weeks from now.

I'm assuming that Dubya' is going to follow through now. I'm not anxious for conflict but I'm just starting to feel a ting of if Dubya' lets SAADAM waylay much longer that Dubya's perceived resolve will start to be questioned by the world. What do you posters think?

[EGPWS]

You know police do not roll up on a bank robbery unarmed, and hope rational discussion, peace and love will prevail. Because I do not want 3000 more civilians to be vaporized by yet another attack on some tall building. Because I do not want 7 million folks living in New York City being evaporated by some derainged funatic with a nuke. Because I don't want English to become an extinct language and American culture studied in museums after the second dark age was over.

Couldn't have been said better McCloud-Strife!

[UCANSEE2]

"Do you think it's OK for us to assassinate people in other nations?"

This question is non-specific. First, who originated the 'rule' that you can't assassinate the 'leader' of another country? (It sure wasn't the general population.) Why is it OK to kill the general population but not the leader?

[UCANSEE2]

To explain further, if a country has the leader of another assassinated, then they should be subject to trial by the UN COUNCIL. If the UN determines they assassinated someone that should have been, and that it saved lives and gained peace, then no-fault.

If we say to hell with the UN, then I don't believe we have any problem, as the law is a UN resolution anyway. (someone correct me if I am wrong.)

[yonif]

How many times are they going to say that. Go get him already! He is a ticking timebomb both for America and its freedom loving friends in the region.

[LdSentinal]

Last time I checked, we armed, funded and trained the Taliban to defeat the Soviet Union.

The U.S. funded certain aspects of the Afghan guerillas -- not all formed the Taliban.

If we want to go further, the United States armed and funded Joseph Stalin and the Soviets to beat Germany in World War 2. Any regrets?

[MeekOneGOP]

bttt

[Mixer]

the president and his advisers swung back and forth on the question of whether Iraq is in "material breach"

Do we have a running list of all of the times Iraq has been in Material Breech. Has to be up to at least 5 by now???

[GYPSY286]

From my understanding, the UN resolution would NOT allow us to although Bush 1st wanted to go to Bagdad. So it's shame on the UN, not the US.

[ohioman]

If you feel that Iraq represents no threat, then I have to ask you one question? How do you type with your head stuck firmly up your arse?

[McCloud-Strife]

"I don't want to 'take down Marines', but anyone who focused on that objective would likely succeed. Why not remove Marines as targets for terrorism?"

That is a simple answer friend. Take the Marines out as a target for terrorism, then what stands between you and a terrorist? How many soldiers or Airmen stood between 3000 folks in the World Trade Center and 19 fanatics? Anyone focused on killing soldiers, your right, they may succeed, but that is what we signed up for. We put our butts on the line so civilians don't have to worry about going to work in the morning and winding up dead. You think those folks in the WTC should have had some reasonable assumption they might die on 9-11? I go to work for the Airforce, and always in the back of my mind is the thought, today could be it, I might die today. That's the chance I take, civilians should not have to be subject to that. We got trops in the mideast, the bad guys have to get through them first before they can hurt you in your bed at night.