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To: John Lenin; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart
"It is reminiscent of what happened in the past with the internment of Japanese Americans . . . ," said Ramona Ripston, the ACLU's executive director.

Reminiscent to some, but the two situations have little in common. In WW II, law-abiding US citizens of Japanese descent were interned. The new arrestees are not US citizens and have broken this country's laws. They are subject, in the ordinary course of things, to jailing, deportation, or both.

31 posted on 12/18/2002 7:11:07 PM PST by dighton
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FYI et al, Regarding the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II, there is another side of the story that was published in Chronicles, February 1995, by Ralph Walker, titled, "The Eternal Regiment, The Continuing Saga of the 442nd."

"Not all Japanese-American leaders have been forthright in their representation of the internment issue, which as stated above, is often viewed in light of the hallowed 442nd. Seldom discussed are the more than 15,000 German- and Italian - Americans who also were relocated and interned during the war. The politcally correct argument is that the Euro-Americans were located and intered because they were a potential threat: The Japanese-Americans were relocated and intered because of 'racism.' In fact, when the government wanted to close the relocation centers in December 1944 - long before the war's end - Japanese-American leaders both in and out of the relocation centers lobbied Washington not to close them. Among those many reasons: the evacuees' lands had been leased for the duration of the war; some of the Japanese nationals were still not convinced that Japan would lose the war; and as Lillian Baker reported in her 1991 book, "The japanning of America: Redress & Reparations Demands by Japanese-Americans ('japanning' referring to the process of blackening fabric or metal; in this case, the varnishing of truth and the blackening of America's honor), some of the Japanese 'frankly never had it so good, being given three meals a day, a bed, medical attention, and no requirement to work for any of this and [some of them] actually wept when the relocation centers were closed. This meant these men were going from on-labor back to stoop labor."

"Remember, all that the evacuees were required to do to be released from the relocation centers--and from the dances, dinners, concerts, parties, schools, and graduation ceremonies that the centers provided the children and their families at taxpayers' expense, which Japanese-American lobbyists in the 1980's described as 'pain and hardship' - was to pledge allegiance to the United states and to resettle in one of the 44 available states not designated a military zone."

There was more information on the 442nd Japanese-American regiment, but the article is too long to transcribe, but we must also remember that there were Japanese-Americans who were sympathetic to their mother country. Also, it must be remembered that these were interment and holding camps, not concentration camps as the liberal media would have us believe. Has anyone ever heard of one Japanese-American in the interment camps ever having been tortured or murdered? Would that our POWs in Germany and Japan in WWII, in Korea and Vietnam, have had half the treatment given to Japanese-Americans in these camps, they wouldn't have perished or come back as skeletons.

118 posted on 12/19/2002 4:13:16 AM PST by Doctor13
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To: dighton
FYI et al,

Regarding the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II, there is another side of the story that was published in Chronicles, February 1995, by Ralph Walker, titled, "The Eternal Regiment, The Continuing Saga of the 442nd."

"Not all Japanese-American leaders have been forthright in their representation of the internment issue, which as stated above, is often viewed in light of the hallowed 442nd. Seldom discussed are the more than 15,000 German- and Italian - Americans who also were relocated and interned during the war. The politcally correct argument is that the Euro-Americans were located and intered because they were a potential threat: The Japanese-Americans were relocated and intered because of 'racism.' In fact, when the government wanted to close the relocation centers in December 1944 - long before the war's end - Japanese-American leaders both in and out of the relocation centers lobbied Washington not to close them. Among those many reasons: the evacuees' lands had been leased for the duration of the war; some of the Japanese nationals were still not convinced that Japan would lose the war; and as Lillian Baker reported in her 1991 book, "The japanning of America: Redress & Reparations Demands by Japanese-Americans ('japanning' referring to the process of blackening fabric or metal; in this case, the varnishing of truth and the blackening of America's honor), some of the Japanese 'frankly never had it so good, being given three meals a day, a bed, medical attention, and no requirement to work for any of this and [some of them] actually wept when the relocation centers were closed. This meant these men were going from on-labor back to stoop labor."

"Remember, all that the evacuees were required to do to be released from the relocation centers--and from the dances, dinners, concerts, parties, schools, and graduation ceremonies that the centers provided the children and their families at taxpayers' expense, which Japanese-American lobbyists in the 1980's described as 'pain and hardship' - was to pledge allegiance to the United states and to resettle in one of the 44 available states not designated a military zone."

There was more information on the 442nd Japanese-American regiment, but the article is too long to transcribe, but we must also remember that there were Japanese-Americans who were sympathetic to their mother country. Also, it must be remembered that these were interment and holding camps, not concentration camps as the liberal media would have us believe. Has anyone ever heard of one Japanese-American in the interment camps ever having been tortured or murdered? Would that our POWs in Germany and Japan in WWII, in Korea and Vietnam, have had half the treatment given to Japanese-Americans in these camps, they wouldn't have perished or come back as skeletons.

120 posted on 12/19/2002 4:15:20 AM PST by Doctor13
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To: dighton
FYI et al,

Regarding the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II, there is another side of the story that was published in Chronicles, February 1995, by Ralph Walker, titled, "The Eternal Regiment, The Continuing Saga of the 442nd."

"Not all Japanese-American leaders have been forthright in their representation of the internment issue, which as stated above, is often viewed in light of the hallowed 442nd. Seldom discussed are the more than 15,000 German- and Italian - Americans who also were relocated and interned during the war. The politcally correct argument is that the Euro-Americans were located and intered because they were a potential threat: The Japanese-Americans were relocated and intered because of 'racism.' In fact, when the government wanted to close the relocation centers in December 1944 - long before the war's end - Japanese-American leaders both in and out of the relocation centers lobbied Washington not to close them. Among those many reasons: the evacuees' lands had been leased for the duration of the war; some of the Japanese nationals were still not convinced that Japan would lose the war; and as Lillian Baker reported in her 1991 book, "The japanning of America: Redress & Reparations Demands by Japanese-Americans ('japanning' referring to the process of blackening fabric or metal; in this case, the varnishing of truth and the blackening of America's honor), some of the Japanese 'frankly never had it so good, being given three meals a day, a bed, medical attention, and no requirement to work for any of this and [some of them] actually wept when the relocation centers were closed. This meant these men were going from on-labor back to stoop labor."

"Remember, all that the evacuees were required to do to be released from the relocation centers--and from the dances, dinners, concerts, parties, schools, and graduation ceremonies that the centers provided the children and their families at taxpayers' expense, which Japanese-American lobbyists in the 1980's described as 'pain and hardship' - was to pledge allegiance to the United states and to resettle in one of the 44 available states not designated a military zone."

There was more information on the 442nd Japanese-American regiment, but the article is too long to transcribe, but we must also remember that there were Japanese-Americans who were sympathetic to their mother country. Also, it must be remembered that these were interment and holding camps, not concentration camps as the liberal media would have us believe. Has anyone ever heard of one Japanese-American in the interment camps ever having been tortured or murdered? Would that our POWs in Germany and Japan in WWII, in Korea and Vietnam, have had half the treatment given to Japanese-Americans in these camps, they wouldn't have perished or come back as skeletons.

121 posted on 12/19/2002 4:16:40 AM PST by Doctor13
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