Opposition Research Starts on Nickles (See I told You)NAACP & DNC ALERT

rushlimbaugh ^ | 12/17/2002 | rush limbaugh

[habs4ever]

No names, i see? Sorry, i believe the McConnell version more...

[Sabertooth]

Look, either face up to the very real potential consequences of this bone-headed move and say you are willing to accept either a completely emasculated senate or the loss of it all together or be satisfied with Lott being humiliated and drop it. It is time for the freeper/GOP Borking of Lott to call it a day.

Lott was the paragon of the emasculated Senate, he borked himself, and continues to do so.

It makes no more sense to blame those who knew he had to go early on, than it does to blame his defenders for prolonging things.

We're all doing what we have to do. It's all healthy and necessary, under the circumstances, and Lott is responsible for those.

[Texasforever]

I am really tired of being part of a group or party that never fails to live up to the stupid label.

[nopardons]

I shan't tell you what I really think it's called; ladies don't use such language and Jim'll ban those who post it on FR. ;^)

[nopardons]

Thanks. :-)

[wardaddy]

Me too.....and I used to cross swords regularly with the Contrarians over this.....yep...the good old days....now I'm clashing with former allies.

It ain't pretty is it.

[Texasforever]

It makes no more sense to blame those who knew he had to go early on, than it does to blame his defenders for prolonging things.

In other words you won and you are not willing to take credit for the consequences good or bad....well the bad anyway. That is not a big surprise.

[Texasforever]

It ain't pretty is it.

Public hangings never are especially with the ones that sit in the front row knitting and enjoying the show then coyly say they were innocent bystanders. It reminds me of the southern sheriff that pulled the guy out of the lake with a hundred pounds of chains wrapped around him, shot 4 times in the back and throat cut. He turns to Cletus and says "that is the damndest case of suicide I ever saw".

[EternalVigilance]

I appreciate much of what you said in your post above. I don't agree with all of it, but in the main I do...you are obviously a sensible and an experienced gentleman...one who cares about the future of our republic and our party. Regards.

[Sabertooth]

I am really tired of being part of a group or party that never fails to live up to the stupid label.

Then why hitch your wagon to Trent Lott?

[EternalVigilance]

It reminds me of the southern sheriff that pulled the guy out of the lake with a hundred pounds of chains wrapped around him, shot 4 times in the back and throat cut. He turns to Cletus and says "that is the damndest case of suicide I ever saw".

Trent Lott could possibly be the only human who could have really committed suicide in such a way. ;-)

[Howlin]

Why on earth did you direct that to me?

If you think that outside of the Islamist threat that white racism is the greatest threat to our freedom or that it even exists to any significant degree then my dear....you are simply wrong.

I never said anything CLOSE to that. I certainly do resent being painted by Lott as a racist simply because I live in the South, and it's even more infuriating that he chose to smear us all to try to rectify something he and he alone brought on himself and this party.

And I feel like I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours. That does not make me an "aider" or an "abettor" or an accomplice to the DNC, nor am I a PC nut.

We shall soon see who is right and who is wrong.

[wardaddy]

Well damn EV....same to you. I expected to be pilloried.

I hope decorum can return here eventually. G-d I hate to say this but there is only one thing to pull us all back together quickly and I'm not about to advocate risking our service folks to wag the dog.

[Sabertooth]

In other words you won and you are not willing to take credit for the consequences good or bad....well the bad anyway. That is not a big surprise.

No.

When Lott did what he did, and had to go, whose fault is that? His own.

Actions have consequences. You didn't want Lott to have any real consequences, and it bothers you he did.

I'd have preferred Lott hadn't self-destructed, but since he did, I'd like to see the party prosper in spite of what he did. And I believe we will.

[EternalVigilance]

In other words you won and you are not willing to take credit for the consequences good or bad....well the bad anyway. That is not a big surprise.

So, if, looking back 6 months or 2 years from now, there are positive results that can be exhibited from the new leadership, are you going to give us credit?

I didn't think so. ;-)

[wardaddy]

Fair enough...but you did say Lott was a bigot. He may be reconstructed....many of his generation are but aside from Spike Lee(who probably doesn't have any white friends), I've heard no one who knows him verify that.

I directed my opining to you because you were always a glue that held the Pubbies on this forum who understood the realities of the alternative together. You fought the Bush bashers tooth and nail and I respected that.

I do not enjoy being in the opposing camp from you.....for what that's worth.

[Texasforever]

Then why hitch your wagon to Trent Lott?

Because when I see a person being vilified for something he did not do but, because they don't like him they use the false charge to bring him down it pisses me off. I would defend anyone on that basis and question my continued association with those that are involved. You can rationalize all night about this being the last straw but the fact is this straw is not about what he said but what others say he was “really” thinking. That makes those that go along with it no better than him.

[Texasforever]

So, if, looking back 6 months or 2 years from now, there are positive results that can be exhibited from the new leadership, are you going to give us credit?

Sure.

[EternalVigilance]

That is not necessary. War will soon be a reality, but not for those reasons. Our leaders may have their faults, but they are like Bubba.

I am much more sanguine about the party coming back together once Lott is quieted down...in fact, I'm such an optimist that I believe the President is coming out looking like a hero...he handled this all beautifully. I also have even sensed a new respect for conservatives coming from some mainstream figures. They know we as a party are going to stand for our principles no matter what.

Lott has apologized to death...and believe it or not, I think the guy on the street is taking it at face value. They will feel his stepping down from the ML spot is enough...and I believe that the new leadership is going to do just fine.

[EternalVigilance]

"but they are like Bubba."= "NOT" like Bubba...sheesh...bad typo...sorry