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Opposition Research Starts on Nickles (See I told You)NAACP & DNC ALERT
rushlimbaugh ^ | 12/17/2002 | rush limbaugh

Posted on 12/17/2002 8:04:12 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Opposition Research Starts on Nickles

Early this week, I told those of you who want Trent Lott gone that dumping him will not end the smearing. I said, "Even now, Democratic Party operation research is giving a Clymer exam to the records of all potential Lott replacements." Sure enough, Jim Abrams of the Associated Press has run the first hit piece on Senator Don Nickles (R-OK), who came out against Lott on one of the Sunday shows.

Headline: "Nickles' Voting Record on Civil Rights Mirrors Lott's." The subtext here is that Don Nickles embraces segregation, "too" because that's what they say about Lott. This is going to keep happening to Republicans until we stop being worried about whether or not we're all thought of as racists. It's going to keep happening until we start tackling this with the mountain of historical facts about the Republican Party's history on civil rights.

I guarantee you they're working on similar stories about Senators McConnell, Frist, Domenici and anyone else who might replace Lott. Without mentioning the Democrats who also opposed it, Abrams dutifully transcribes the DNC talking point that Nickles opposed making Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a federal holiday. He does write that "Nickles unsuccessfully pushed alternatives to a paid holiday," but follows it up quickly with the fact that he backed a Jesse Helms amendment to preserved tax exempt status for private schools, such as Bob Jones University.

You must mention Bob Jones; it's obligatory if AP wants to keep getting the DNC faxes and not have to actually do their own research instead. There's a whole bunch of tax exempt colleges out there, but you have to name this one. Everywhere in this article it's "Lott and Nickles." It's like reading an article about Sonny & Cher. AP also reports that "the senators" again, they are one-and-the-same, "differed with the NAACP" on Head Start, education programs, the confirmation of John Ashcroft and global AIDS funding.

So they're all bigots, because they dared disagree with the NAACP and supported Ashcroft. They're already moving on from Lott to Nickles, as proved by the quote AP printed from Hillary Shelton, director of the NAACP's Washington office: "We're concerned..." Oh, she's quoting Daschle! "We're concerned that Nickles has voted just as poorly or even more poorly than Trent Lott." [Italics added] Do you see this? Nickles is even worse, now! I hate to say See, I Told You So, but this is all happening. We have to take this garbage on. There's no other way to stop it.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; naacp; racist; rat
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To: habs4ever
And who humiliated him? Not me. He humiliated himself.

And I might ask you exactly when you decided we don't have to hold our leaders to the same standards we tried to hold Bill Clinton to.

Did you see his interview last night? Did you see what he was willing to say to save his job? He said that we ALL are racists but he's willing to help us find our way out of this.

Don't talk to me about decency until Lott gets some.

181 posted on 12/17/2002 10:04:32 PM PST by Howlin
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To: EternalVigilance
Good analogy. I'm getting a bit peeved at the constance "fool" and "you people" so freely thrown about here.
182 posted on 12/17/2002 10:05:11 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: habs4ever
So, you are still advocating that Lott do the most dishonorable and destructive thing possible by quitting the Senate and giving power to Daschle....purely out of perosnal and petty pique because the whole Republican party and the President wouldn't jump down into the political grave he was digging for himself?

Crazy.
183 posted on 12/17/2002 10:05:39 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Rye
President Bush. He is, after all, the one who sets the tone. Are you willing to place the blame there?

Yep. In the December 10th WH briefing Ari told a reporter that Lott's initial explanation was good enough for Bush and that Bush saw no reason for him to resign or say anymore. The next day, Olympia Snowe demanded that Lott have a press conference because the explanation was not clear enough. Then The Bush Whitehouse jumped on board and Lott was doomed from that point on.

184 posted on 12/17/2002 10:06:57 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Carolinamom
The gangs all here tonight.
185 posted on 12/17/2002 10:07:04 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Texasforever
Look, Lott has been something of an albatross for the President from the beginning.. He came with a record of pandering and feathering his own nest. From that asinine power sharing thing he got duped into agreeing to up to this unholy mess he has brought down on all of us, he has been a burden. Good grief, we wouldn't have a Department of Homeland Security to this day if it had been left up to Lott's leadership. He claimed that sort of thing just wasn't done in a Lame Duck session, then President Bush showed him how to make that Lame Duck fly. Couldn't help but notice during that Lame Duck session that Lott had plenty of time to engineer a vote on the Senate Majority Leader for the new congress.
186 posted on 12/17/2002 10:07:52 PM PST by Darlin'
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To: EternalVigilance
Like I said: You do NOT understand politics, or politicians. LOTT CANNOT STAY, don't you understand that?

The pundits do, and until now I always considered them dumber than the average FReeper.

You don't go from being the Majority Leader to just another back-bencher. It just doesn't happen; it's like a professor who doesn't make tenure. He doesn't just go back to his office and say "ah, well, maybe next year!"

When you are denied tenure, you LEAVE.

When you get a "no confidence" vote as a Prime Minister of a government, you call a snap election and step down.

I mean, do you read or watch television or do anything to expand your horizons at all?

187 posted on 12/17/2002 10:09:11 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
and had Mr. Lott say "I am a jackass. I should NEVER have said what I said, I apologize from the bottom of my heart, and I'll never do it again."

And where were you last Monday night on the David Horowitz thread and we were pleading with Lott to come out NOW and apologize profusely?

What did Lott do then....?
Released his lame "discarded policies of the past" non-apology.

BTW, you must have admired all the Democrats that stood by Clinton all the way.
They were good, loyal team players.

Good Lord... where's your sense of decency?

188 posted on 12/17/2002 10:09:28 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Darlin'
He came with a record of pandering and feathering his own nest

I wonder if you will show the same outrage when Bush "panders" and the next ML "panders" because that is exactly what happens when you are in a leadership position charged with getting things done.

189 posted on 12/17/2002 10:10:54 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Howlin
Look, Howlin, I had absolutely NO problems reading and understanding your ridiculous queries; unlike you and your abject lack of ability to comprehend the Lott debacle AND my post. You asked me if I was " taking names ". There wasn't anything, in my post, that even implied such a course of action. I said that I had my eyes opened and you , YOU took off on a delusional course of illogic from there.

I never said, as you've now claimed, that I didn't want anyone to say something, which I disagreed with. OTOH, dear, THAT is exactly what you and those who want Trent's head on a platter, have been posting to any and ALL who disagree with you, since this mess began. I guess that YOU are " allowed " to say whatever is on your mind, but the opposition is not. Have I got that right ? If not, go back and reread ALL of your posts , since this began.

And, FWIW, you better believe that I won't keep still ( though I did, for almost a week ! ), when I see people saying things which only aid and abbet those who only want bad things ( try distruction of ) for the GOP.

Just keep right on digging, Howlin. :^)

190 posted on 12/17/2002 10:10:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Illbay
See #179
191 posted on 12/17/2002 10:12:12 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: Howlin
Don't you understand how arguments about Trent Lott work on FR? One side, a proponent for Lott's ML resignation, takes a position that Trent Lott's statements cripple him as a Republican leader, because even if he isn't REALLY racist and didn't MEAN to support the racist campaign of the `48 Dixiecrat standard bearer, he will at best be tarred with that label as he shepherds Republican legislation through the Senate for the rest of eternity, and used to bring out the base proven essential to the Democrats, blacks. At second worst, he'll have to suck up to those voters to keep them on his side, which will mean he's pandering to the left. And at worst, if he is in fact actually racist (which he essentially claimed every Mississippian and Southerner has been, crucifying all of us with him for HIS sins, as it were), he should be removed just because the Republican Party shouldn't allow itself to be represented by those who won't stand by the Republican principle of freedom for all, not the Democrat principle of "All are equal, but some are more equal than others."

The opponents of that poster then call the Anti-Lott side foolish and liberal, and says that the other side is dumb for knuckling under to reality that way. How could you be so STUPID as to think that as the representative of the Republican Party, you'd want to be a good steward and voice for its conservative programs? That's not important. What's important is that we never allow another Republican to lose a position again. Republican officeholders are just too important, even RINOs. That is the fundamental principle to abide by. Du-uh. Therefore, we shouldn't remove Trent Lott. Case closed.

Got it now? Get those boots in lockstep!
192 posted on 12/17/2002 10:13:48 PM PST by LibertarianInExile
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To: nopardons
If you think I want the destruction of the GOP, perhaps you'd better go reread my posts. All of them.
193 posted on 12/17/2002 10:14:23 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Illbay
Like I said: You do NOT understand politics, or politicians. LOTT CANNOT STAY, don't you understand that?

Of course I know Lott can't stay. I said so DAYS ago on FR. When did it dawn on you?

It has been obvious since then that the only practical and honorable thing for Lott to do is to step into the background and go back to doing the work of a Senator instead of playing court jester for the liberals.

Then maybe we can have a Leader who is credible and sensible and proactive and doing the critical work of making our majority permanent.

194 posted on 12/17/2002 10:14:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin
supporting a backwater jerk
195 posted on 12/17/2002 10:15:49 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Howlin
It is pointless going on with you.You haven't a clue about the risks involved in all this.And you want to bring back to YOU.Who are you? We are talking about the public humiliation of a guy who can swing the Senate to the Dems and you can't grasp the precarious nature of this Damoclean sword he holds? Why has it been so hard to back off....and work out a solution that avoids such a doomsday play by him.Those that keep pushing are fools.

Crying about what he HAS done is for losers.Come up with something constructive instead of another of your bitching tirades.

I will talk to you about decency until you show some.To inject Clinton into a comparison shows how twisted your mind is, and flabby.You have been played for a simp in this mess and have patted yourself on the back the whole time.

196 posted on 12/17/2002 10:16:15 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: Texasforever
"[A 'Lott Apology' pool] Only for the next poor slob that is brought down by the "Lott definition of Racism". When reading minds becomes the litmus test for racist then every republican to the right of Snowe is in for a rough ride."

That is exactly the principle I've held since this fiasco started -- and ONE apology ought to have sufficed.

The wheels began falling off for Lott once he began aimlessly begging forgiveness at every turn instead of holding his ground.

After watching Lott on BET selling himself out as well as promising to sell out his conservative constituency as further penance, he can longer be entrusted to do the right thing for the GOP.

I support Trent Lott retaining his Senate Seat, but as for Majority "Leader," that takes a man of conviction -- has he any left??

197 posted on 12/17/2002 10:17:31 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Texasforever
I must admit, you're a stand-up guy.

Lott's ass-kissing has made a bad situation a helluva lot worse. I had his back at the beginning, but he has now made that impossible. I think he's dust, and I'm now pulling for Nickles to take his place.

My prediction is that the GOP leadership will convince him not to resign his seat for the good of the party, but I of course could be wrong. What do you think the chances are of a Snowe &/or Chaffee jumping ship if Lott resigns his seat and a Dem takes his place?

198 posted on 12/17/2002 10:17:33 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: LibertarianInExile
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. :-)
199 posted on 12/17/2002 10:18:45 PM PST by Howlin
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To: habs4ever
Oh, okay. I give up. Let's keep the bigot for our leader.
200 posted on 12/17/2002 10:20:03 PM PST by Howlin
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