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To: crystalk
One hundred dusty commentaries which say to stick to the conventional translations, will have no effect upon me.

The Hebrew (and Greek) simply are not adequately covered by those translations, but those who find them comforting are welcome to them.

You need not quote further conventional theology texts, I am well aware they do not contain modern technological translations of these terms.

500 posted on 12/22/2002 8:55 PM MST by crystalk

Enjoy your Eisegesis.

Have good journey.

chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>

512 posted on 12/22/2002 9:05:04 PM PST by Uri’el-2012
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To: XeniaSt
I am, of course, not at this point engaging in any "-gesis" at all...just translating the original languages into modern, technologically aware English. Ancient Hebrew was aware of self-propelled vehicles, aerial and land...Ancient Greek and Hebrew were well aware of intelligent and humanlike beings not from Earth.

Kosmos is and always has been much broader than the English 'world,'...

We are now far better placed to study Hebrew than ever before, since it has been recovered as a living language, and many implications that Christians may have suspected, sure enough ARE there, PACE earlier dictionaries, and many other implications they many NOT have suspected are also there!

Your theological "-gesis-es" can do all they wish, they have already done much damage. But I am not going to play the "-gesis" game. I am just translating.

The earlier commentaries were just walking in sparks of their own kindling, the blind leading the blind, when it comes to the overtones and actual meanings of the Hebrew in particular. We can now let the LANGUAGE lead, get [all of] the meaning[s] that an educated Hebrew speaker would get out of the passage, and ignore the pompous theological establishments of the Gentile world.

526 posted on 12/22/2002 11:58:19 PM PST by crystalk
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