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I did not say that I didn't believe that a man named Jesus died by crucifixion. I said that I did not believe in resurrection of truly dead people, and virgin birth. I think that you will find throughout history, that there are/were witnesses to many events that either did not happen, or upon closer scrutiny, that they may have happened differently than first believed. Please have the courtesy to not lecture me.

Hmmmmm

Sorry . . . not my intent to tone etc. things as a lecture.

I'm no longer a lecturer, actually. They gave me assoc. professor status long ago.

But I'd just as soon not "associate professor" you either.

ACTUALLY, I'M JUST RESPONDING as I feel and think about the stimuli you offer. I'm probably as passionate as you are. But I'm NOT trying to take brickbats or 4 X 4's to you. I rather enjoy you.

I also am not responding to you alone. I'm responding as though your questions or comments were handed to me anonymously in class. What you get is something of the variety, passion etc. that my classes always got.

I'm not sure what to do about it. It's VERY DIFFICULT for me to write dispassionately. It's hard enough work to be more civil and polite. God is not finished with me yet, obviously.

BTW, there's a program on Discovery now examining experimentally where the hand nails would have been placed and their ability to hold the body. The historical record indicates the wrist as the shroud shows.

Anyway--where was I . . . If something I write is particularly an offensive example of lecturing you, please feel free to point it out in the thread or freepmail and I'LL DO WHAT I CAN to adjust things accordingly.

I'm strident about the ideas, the issues, the truths. I have no need to beat you over the head with even a wet noodle.

Blessings,