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To: agrace
Not that I'm an expert, but Satan's main field of battle is in the minds of human beings. He can create delusions, visions, if you will. People under demonic attach "see" things that others do not. It is real, but it is in their heads. Hence, elaborate abduction scenarios are not dreams, and not actual abductions, but complex projections in people's minds planted there by spiritual beings.
151 posted on 12/18/2002 11:07:51 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: My2Cents
I hear you and don't disagree with your point. However, I don't think he is restricted to deception of the mind (not that you said that of course). Like I said, he is called prince of the power of the air, and we wrestle against "principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." High places in this sense means -according to Strong's rendering of the Greek - "existing in heaven, of heavenly origin or nature."

Angels have been known to take physical form, we are warned that they walk among us. The nature of spiritual beings as described in scripture and alien beings/craft as described by those claiming to experience them are notably compatible.

That said though, I do believe that the two operate closely together - deception of the mind coupled with use of the spirit realm itself.
159 posted on 12/18/2002 11:53:32 AM PST by agrace
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To: My2Cents
There's tooooo much tangible, hard object etc. sorts of stuff to attribute the entire puzzle to demons period, IMHO.

My brother was well aware of demons. But he certainly didn't believe the craft he routinely saw government personnel working around and piloting--he didn't see the craft as materialized demons that humans were shifting the gear shifts on.

I do think the Biblical GREAT DECEPTION is somehow tied in with all this. We are wise to be wary.
418 posted on 12/21/2002 11:14:50 PM PST by Quix
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To: My2Cents
I also believe that a significant percentage of the abductions ARE ACTUAL PHYSICAL ABDUCTIONS wherein human individuals' physical bodies are invaded, manipulated, implanted, altered etc.

Now how much of THAT percentage is done by government humans and how much by ET's in cahoots with government humans and how much strictly by ET's independent of government humans . . . . and how much of all THAT is in cahoots with demonic forces . . .

That is very, very unclear--at least to me--at present.
419 posted on 12/21/2002 11:16:54 PM PST by Quix
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