Posted on 12/17/2002 2:21:52 PM PST by Polycarp
I do believe that God became man in the person of Jesus Christ. Have a great holiday, stuartcr! yendu b.
Considering that the universe isn't without limits, to say that life evolved here, or anywhere in the universe is beyond reason, and odds, for that matter.
Ode To The Carp
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Carp, Carp the noble fish,
A trusty friend, a tasty dish.
The lessons of the carp are two,
For mind of man and tummy too!
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First we have carp, a healthful food,
Prepared to fit our every mood.
Broiled carp, fried carp, carp a la mode,
Breaded carp cake, le carp avec toad.
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Carpburger, carp bernaise, carp on the rocks,
Steamed carp, carp chowder, carpels and lox.
To name just a few of the recipes on hand,
Which have made the carp the toast of the land.
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But a lovely meal's not his only gift,
That noblest of fish teaches that if,
We copy him and his muddy way,
We shall find peace in every day.
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He shows that worrying and scurrying around,
Will get us a home in the solid ground.
But by finding peace and showing love,
We will end our days in the soft warm mud.
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So be like the carp, this feast of kings,
And share all the gifts he freely brings.
His tasty flesh, that perfect food,
His actions, example of all that is good.
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If you believe in a supreme being, good for you. But go ahead, unless you happen to fear a threat to your belief system, and see what you can find out. The information is out there.
Since it's not my job or interest to convince you or anyone else, do as you wish, and believe what you will, despite the evidence to the contrary.
The alternative is ridiculous: ALL the reports, throughout ALL of history, are false, including: a large number of eyewitnesses whose only reward was ridicule, video tape of events and clearly definable craft from MULTIPLE independent sources AND angles with and without radar confirmation and fighter intercept, reports from "credible" (mainstream) news sources, the actual physical presence of unidentifiable material retreived from those who claim to be abducted, material which has filaments so fine our current technology cannot begin to approach anything remotely the same, and more. Again, all this stuff is available, and lots of the eyewitnesses are very credible, highly proficient sources, such as: pilots, police officers and emergency personell, engineers, teachers, and virtually every segment of society, over an extended period of time.
I know plenty of Blood-bought, repented up, Spirit-led Evangelical Christians who at least allow the possibility for ET's if not are convinced strongly of their existence.
And one of the Christians who I've known who most lived closest to God of all I've known--she knew from a very early age from her awareness from God that there are many vast other cultures, worlds etc. . . . and also evil in other places of the universe.
Knowing her as I did, I believed her. Nothing in the Bible would prevent anything she said. Besides if she was adamant that God said something was definnitely going to happen. It always happened.
I'm sorry you believe this. I hope you read the bible more and believe more of what you read. That middle paragraph is really something. First it's hard to read and second it's just sad.
NOT TRUE AT ALL.
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I know plenty of Blood-bought, repented up, Spirit-led Evangelical Christians who at least allow the possibility for ET's if not are convinced strongly of their existence. . . .
I've known maybe 8-24 or so Christians who've lived closest to God of all the Christians I've known in 55 years. At or near the top of that group in closesness to God was a woman who's lived close to God mostly all her life since earliest memories--Judy.
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She loves Native Americans. She has often gone to Reservations to minister to them. 3 different times in 3 different Reservations, she prayed in tongues in a circle at the end of the ministry time.
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Each of those times, an elderly member of the tribe who'd stood nearby, came up to her and asked her where she'd learned to speak the more ancient, more eloquent dialect of their language. They further explained each time that she'd given a beautiful summary of the Gospel story as she thought she was merely praying in tongues.
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Judy has known virtually all her life that there were other intelligent critters of God's creation in other galaxies & dimensions. Further, that there was even evil beyond earth.
Knowing her as I did, I believed her. Nothing in the Bible would prevent anything she said. Besides if she was adamant that God said something was definnitely going to happen. It always happened.
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I'm sorry you believe this. I hope you read the bible more and believe more of what you read. That middle paragraph is really something. First it's hard to read and second it's just sad. --Biblewonk
PERHAPS You'd be willing to show me the Scriptures you assert affirm your position.
Have read The Word through a number of times. Slept with it like a teddy bear in Jr High, High school & University. . . . it would be interesting to see something I haven't seen before.
Has never been anything in The Word I haven't believed (to the best of my faith and rational ability to believe anything). I believe The Word far more than I believe "normal" reality. The Word has rescued me from death in more ways than one multiple times. I believe the entire Word as the infallible Word of God [in the original documents]--more than sufficient guide and Life for this life as well as sufficient Light on The Way to the next. It would be very hard to imagine that you or anyone else believed The Word more fully; at a higher level; more faithfully; more emphatically, more acceptingly . . . than I do. . . . Perhaps with the exception of Kenneth Hagin--perhaps.
I do try and avoid treating INFERENCES from/about The Word as emphatic, crystal clear declarations OF The Word. All kinds of people and denominations have taken INFERENCES sky-west-and-crooked through the centuries.
But I have been wrong about some things before. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
Blessings,
Have read The Word through a number of times. Slept with it like a teddy bear in Jr High, High school & University. . . . it would be interesting to see something I haven't seen before.
Has never been anything in The Word I haven't believed (to the best of my faith and rational ability to believe anything). I believe The Word far more than I believe "normal" reality. The Word has rescued me from death in more ways than one multiple times. I believe the entire Word as the infallible Word of God [in the original documents]--more than sufficient guide and Life for this life as well as sufficient Light on The Way to the next. It would be very hard to imagine that you or anyone else believed The Word more fully; at a higher level; more faithfully; more emphatically, more acceptingly . . . than I do. . . . Perhaps with the exception of Kenneth Hagin--perhaps.
I do try and avoid treating INFERENCES from/about The Word as emphatic, crystal clear declarations OF The Word. All kinds of people and denominations have taken INFERENCES sky-west-and-crooked through the centuries.
But I have been wrong about some things before. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
Countless Catholics have almost the same bible I have and claim to believe it as well as I do yet they have no problem with Marian doctrine. That proves to me that I can't prove anything to anyone when it comes to the bible. If you are a person that reads Genesis and still believes the world is billions of years old and maybe the big bang is true and maybe a day is millions of years and maybe evolution is Gods plan, then I wouldn't even try to argue anything about UFO's.
I believe that the universe is as old as Genesis implies, ie about 6000 years old. In the days of creation we see that the stars were created on the 4th day and yet painfully little mention. This means a lot to me because I used to be an athiest evolutionist amature astronomer sci fi nut. When I got saved I was so disappointed to see that God was not near as impressed with the cosmos as I and Carl Sagan were. How trivial the cosmos it to the Lord. It amazed me.
When we see that God made the stars as if they are only window dressings for the earth we see that spiritually the earth really is the center of the universe. When we read that "All creation groans" due to the fall of man we see the same thing. Aliens work in an evolution model of the universe and they are as badly needed as a missing link. The discovery of live on another planet would be as important to a Godless world and a carl sagan as actual proof that evolution happened. They are almost one and the same.
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