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The Democrat Plan to regain control of the US Senate in January.
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| 12-17-2002
| VANNROX
Posted on 12/17/2002 11:56:04 AM PST by vannrox
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To: No Truce With Kings
I stand corrected. Thank you for providing a comprehensive and reliable source.
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posted on
12/17/2002 5:52:03 PM PST
by
mwl1
To: No Truce With Kings
In other words, the Lott resignation was a trial balloon floated by Mitch McConnell that has been disavowed by Lott himself. Thank you. It's the pits having to read a thread full of conjecture just to get to this.
To: vannrox
The Democrats have taken an innocuous comment made by Senator Lott, and are using it like a blunt mallet. Pounding and pounding away. Attacking and attacking like a rabid dog at Lott.
It's not just the Democrats...
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posted on
12/17/2002 6:08:11 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
To: vannrox
Senator Lott has made it known, that if he were to step down from the Senate Leadership position that he would leave the Senate. Then Lott is a scumbag, isn't he? No better than Jeffords.
To: vannrox
Senator Lott has made it known, that if he were to step down from the Senate Leadership position that he would leave the Senate. This is public knowledge. This would then force the current Governor of Mississippi; a democrat, to replace the Senator. He has also made it public that he would choose a Democrat
and a very liberal one at that. Lott should step down as Majority leader *and* remain as a Senator. If he is a loyal conservative and Republican he would do that and puncture the Democrat plan.
Remember, the Dems wouldnt have this opening if Lott didnt put his foot in his mouth.
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posted on
12/17/2002 7:25:52 PM PST
by
WOSG
To: Jumper
We ARE better than the Democrats.
We can show how much better by dumping Lott and putting in Nickles as majority leader.
66
posted on
12/17/2002 7:27:44 PM PST
by
WOSG
To: MattinNJ
Let's Get it straight: The Republicans is the responsibility party.
The fact that Democrat defended a perjurer and have race-baiters like Jesse "hymietown" Jackson in their ranks is a reason to NOT follow their example.
Our better example would be to find better leaders when the current ones display a failure to convey our true message and fail to represent us well. Lott is, unfortunately an albatross.
Chris caldwell said: Republicans pay a huge policy price for
holding on to Lott.
Didnt we already lose Louisiana Senate race because of this?
This is all a bit 'unfair' to Trent Lott, who has done some spineless things and some great things. But unfair or not, we can do better.
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posted on
12/17/2002 7:34:45 PM PST
by
WOSG
To: hobbes1
Right. The question is leadership.
I hope the Senate sees it this way.
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posted on
12/17/2002 7:36:07 PM PST
by
WOSG
To: vannrox
As I said after the Nov. 5, 2002 elections, Trent Lott would find any way possible to hand the Senate back to the Democrats. And I was sort of kidding!!
His "off the cuff" remarks at Strom Thrumond's party were on a card and you can see him looking at his notes.
Lott wins again! He's a hidden Democratic operative planted to keep the GOP out of power.
I fully believe that if Lott isn't able to hand the Senate back to Daschle, he'll hijack a plane and crash into the next Senate Republican Caucus meeting!
It would almost be worth 2 more years of gridlock in the Senate, proving to the country that Democrats can't be trusted yet again, and win more Senate seats in 2004 if it gets rid of Trent Lott.
Go ahead Lincoln Chaffee, switch after Lott resigns. And you're pitiful grab for meaningless and temporary power will push you into the same ash heap of history as the NJ Democrats and Jim Jeffords. One hundred years from now the bridges with your name on them will crumble to dust.
Thanks a LOTT, Trent - For Nothing!
To: vannrox
What a great plan them Dems had. But wait, how did they get Lott to utter those words at Thurmond's birthday party? In order for us to go along with this grand scheme of theirs, you first have to believe they coerced Lott into being stupid enough to say the things they could then use against him. Kinda hard to believe when he's said THE SAME THINGS in the past! And it hasn't been the Dems squawking, it's been his own party and for good reason. HE'S AN IDIOT WHO SHOULD SHUT HIS BIG, FAT, STUPID MOUTH ALREADY!!
Why would anyone want him as the spokesperson for the party? Even before he took the gaspipe, he was an ineffective leader who bent over backwards to make nice with the Dems when the Senate was split 50-50. Does anyone remember his role during impeachment? How he left to House Republicans out to dry? My God, let's get rid of him!
To: hobbes1
Again, if Trent doesn't say these incredibly stupid things, what is there for Carville to make something of? You aren't the victim if you hand your enemies the loaded gun they put to your head.
To: ModelBreaker
2. Even if he did resign from the Senate, Mississippi must hold an election for a replacement within 90 days. The republican candidate is the overwhelming favorite, as long as he can walk and chew gum at the same time.I read where there has to be a special election only if the person dies or resigns before the next Congress. If Lott waited until the next session opens, then the Mississippi governor can appoint someone for the remainder of the term, which would be until Jan. 2007 in this case.
To: Enterprise
I've about had it with this Lott imbroglio. If he does keep his job, as far as I am concerned, He will be the first black Majority Leader in the Senate. He kowtowed to every liberal black in the country. Before someone calls me racist. Let me say this. Racists are stupid! Anybody who judges a person by the melanin in their skin is an absolute neanderthal idiot. Racism is dead, buried, gone in the republican party. We are arguing about stupid idiotic things on a potentially racist black entertainment network. Liberals are the only true racists. They don't believe that americans of african descent can accomplish, acheive, or do anything without their plantation mentality. It's time to grow up anyone with an iq above room temperatures knows Martin Luther King was a great man that helped us all grow up. Get over it America. If you can prove to me Lott is a true racists do it! I don't think you can. He is a repentant big mouth who need to get on with his life.
To: MattinNJ
RE # 24:
Absolutely correct! The correct reposnse from day one would have been to attack, recall and expose and quote repeatedly the statements you mention (plus Hitlery's f****** j** b*****!) and not apologize! Sheesh! Turn the tables on the fanatics themselves! Imagine this, the fanatical Left, foaming at the mouth succeeds in painting a somnambulistic, mellow wuss as a fanatic. And we let'em!
To: ModelBreaker
Either he is a rascist. Or he is very, very stupid. Reminds me of that line by DeNiro in "Casino" about the slots manager:
"If he knew about it, he's gone. If he didn't know, then he's too stupid to stay. Either way, he's gone."
With all due respect to Vannrox, I believe your analysis is correct. Lott may be a dolt but he's proven himself unable to control his tongue. All that talk about him resigning his Senate seat is just that. Talk.
To: Rummyfan
I agree.
I'm tired of the "oh, let's not play the Dems hand and attack Lott for his silly statement", or, "geez, the Dems say worse" excuses.
You have computers, folks, do the searches. Lott has been sticking this particular foot in his mouth for DECADES!!!!
He looked like a puppet on BET: "Sen. Lott, if the black people asked you to cut your penis off, would you on BET"? "I sure would", replies Lott!!!
Add Lott's decades of silly racial remarks to his continuing ability to take it up the a** by Dems, his never ending support of process over substance, his total hatred of any legislation that is conservative that he can't water down, and you have the biggest boob in political history.
I couldn't care less who Mississippi sends to the Senate, but I care the utmost who is the Senate Majority Leader when my party is in control. My vote is my Senator, Bill Frist. No Democrat would dare attack him, he's a heart surgeon and the Dimbulbs need him around when they get all hot and bothered on the Senate floor. :-)
To: Geist Krieger
In South Dakota and Louisiana they stole the election and thus two Senate seats by voter fraud and other corruption. In the Senate itself they gain back control by hypocritically destroying a Senator.I'll give you South Dakota, but's difficult to steal an election by 40,000 votes as in Louisiana. If the Dems knew the black vote wasn't going to the polls and cranked up the machine, that's the GOP's problem for not getting more of their supporters to the polls.
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
It may not be Lott's choice to resign his seat. The next step in the process will be a call for censure and there is no way republicans can keep it from coming to a vote. Lott would have no choice but to resign given the a high probability that a censure vote would go against him Democrats have let republicans do the dirty work in regard to the Majority Leader question, they will pick up the ball from this point on. They have all the "evidence" they need to convict Lott of racism wrapped up in a nice little package and given to them by republicans as a Christmas present.
To: commish
Scenario 1 - Lott Leaves, in 90 Days Miss has Election and brings in a REAL Conservative Senator -- Doesn't really matter what Chafee does - if 50/50 there will be no sharing and Cheney will have the deciding vote - Conservative judges get confirmed, Bush agenda gets pushed forward, America prospers and the Dems are seen as the Race-baiting chest thumpers they are.In all of your scenarios, you fail to point out it takes 60 votes to stop a filibuster. The Dems can stop judicial nominees forever, especially any from the South just by playing the race card!
You can forget Judge Pickering being re-nominated now. Thanks Lott, you moron!
To: kylaka
Splain that new math again pleas.... are you not gonna let the independents vote?...... If not why not.... If they vote then who are you saying they'll vote with? Remember Jeffords became an Independent in May 2001 but caucused with the Democrats....
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posted on
12/17/2002 8:03:11 PM PST
by
deport
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