Posted on 12/16/2002 5:34:44 AM PST by SJackson
If you look at the stats, W Virginia has one of the lowest crime rates of any state. So, unlike the urban poor areas, your fears of violent crime in W Virginia are largely unfounded.
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Liberals spend much of their time doing 2 things: 1) going on endlessly about how america needs frank discussions about race, and 2) having hissy fits when any white person talks to them frankly about race. The reality is that liberals DO NOT WANT and WILL NOT TOLERATE frank discussions about race. What they want are endless loops of themselves droning on and on about all of the PC/evil-white racism BS. I generally tune this out, as I spent many years on college campuses...and got more than my fair share of their tirades.
The problems that she addresses have their origins from the fact that the liberal elites in this country have forced a variety of policies onto the US which have never really been accepted by the vast white middle/working class. Affirmative action is the most obvious example.
Multiculturalism and mass immigration are two more. Back in the civil rights movement, the majority of white americans came to accept the idea that the minorities that were here should be treated as equals and with respect. The elites took this and ran with it in a totally different direction: namely, that this country no longer was a white middle class nation, but now belonged to "the world".
Suddenly, hordes of illegal and legal immigrants started showing up. Suddenly, our kids were no longer allowed to attend Dicken's play "A Christmas Carol" because it was too "religious" for public school (a real example from The Factor tonight). Suddenly, we all had to sit through "diversity seminars" where we were lectured that america no more belongs to us than it does to the illegal from syria.
In a nutshell, what started as a movement to give fair treatment to minorities here in the US became a liberal jihad to overturn the traditions and institutions of the groups that created america. The masses of white middle class/working class america never agreed to this...and I doubt that they ever will.
Americans are generally docile when not directly threatened. Call somebody a racist (or whatever name) and he'll back down, mostly
When you directly threaten their jobs, their ability to make their mortgage payments, you will find it easier to make them mad. But when you make them worried about their kids, and make them dispair that their kids will have a decent future, then I think we will see a level of savagery unleashed that the world has not seen in a long time.
Think of the American middle-class like a large dog, chained to his dog-house. Every once in a while a little yapping mutt will run over and grab a bone out of his dish and scamper off, proud of himself. The little mutt is mostly safe, because the chain that holds the big dog to his house is strong and thick.
But pray for the little mutt on the day the big dog gets ticked off enough that he breaks the chain, for then there will be no place for the little mutt to run to
They should put the Somalis in Detroit's inner city now and see if they're problems are from race or something else.
I can kind of appreciate what you're saying ----but the history of slavery shows that blacks in Africa were just as much a part of it. Slavery isn't really just a white crime against blacks, there were Africans themselves who benefitted financially by the selling of their slaves to whites.
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I was looking at it purely from the perspective of the assimilation of different ethnic (essentially all white), not racial racial backgrounds, which was successful in America, and to the extent that a "white nationalist" movement raises it's head (not great), may now be failing.
The issue of black assimilation is far more problematical, I look forward to your input.
The above is inordinately clear, what is disturbing is that most American citizens appear to be enjoying the ever warming water.
Question: How can illegal alien families that make 7 bucks an hour or less, afford to have eight and nine children, or more? How is this possible when most American citizens can barely afford two kids? Who is paying the medical bills? The dentist? The food? Housing? Insurance? Clothing etc etc. Can you explain to me how they can possibly afford these basic, necessary things?
White working class and black underclass birthrates may not decline to the levels of the white upper and middle classes. But in both cases, the frequency of fatherless homes, rampant drug and alcohol addiction, poor public education, and an overall anti-intellectual sentiment will ensure that most of the offspring of the lower classes will become the "proles" of the 21st Century.
The possibility of a Mexican/Atzlan secession is one that's more likely. I have to agree with Huntington on this one. Second and third generation Hispanics have incentives to assimilate (personal note: I'm a second-gen myself, although I'm of Greek descent). The intermarriage trend that you mentioned is one sign of that. Some of the other pressures to assmiliate that existed for my grandparents are still in force today, from the immediate needs of survival in a new land to helping your kids climb higher up the ladder than you.
However, the Mexican/Atzlan situation is different in some respects from the immigration wave of the last century. Resistance to assimilation is high, aided by the ease of travel and communication with a mother country sharing a land border with us (contrast this with the immigration wave at the turn of the 20th century, when travel/communications were more difficult, aiding in severing ties to the mother country). The multicultural fetish exhibited by TPTB doesn't help a whole lot either. History plays in this too, since we did annex a good-sized chunk of their turf that they consider to be theirs. And, the numbers themselves may prove decisive. After all, if your cultural kin are the majority, why bother assimilating in a culture that's in retreat? Especially if you can use your voting power backed by sheer numbers to extract wealth from that structure to tide you over (another key difference between now and a century ago), while clinging on to the culture of the mother country and building an economic base that spans both sides of the border?
As far as leadership for a secession goes, those second and third generation folks with their acquired Protestant work ethic, their wealth, and their cultural ties to their ancestral lands may provide it, especially if the economics are there to support it, and if there's some serious racial animosity built up. Take a look at this article for one possible indicator of this (ie. the renewed interest in Spanish by second/third gen types). The fact that there's a "La Raza" doesn't sound too promising to those that aren't part of it if the militant types come to the fore. As to the timing of this, I think that the 2015-2030 timeframe makes sense (that's when the Boomers die off). The remaining determining factor is whether the US will use force to prevent this from happening or not. A Hispanic Ghandi-type leading a civil disobedience campaign, or a bloody Bosnia complete with ethnic cleansing campaigns? And what happens if Atzlan becomes a reality? I know some neo-Confederate types would be more than happy to use that as a precedent ("If they can do it, why can't we?").
Carol Swain is right when she said that the certainty that whites will be a minority is the biggest card racists of all types have to play. This ties into your comments concerning causes of lower birthrates among whites. I would add to it by saying that another thing that depresses birthrates is whether you have hope in the future or not. For many that are looking ahead, the future looks pretty bleak for them and any children they hope to raise. A lot of factors tie into that (taxes, welfare, jobs, etc.), that tend to stack the deck against whites. Hell, it stacks the deck against anyone that's productive when you have to shoulder the load for everyone else too.
Have you ever read The Coming Anarchy by Kaplan, by any chance? The articles a bit dated, but one thing I find interesting is his concept of a bi-furicated world, where you have Fukuyama's Last Man safe and secure (a small minority), and Hobbes First Man (everyone else) living a life thats nasty, brutish, and short. With that in mind, we may both unfortunately be right. We turn into a mega-Brazil with all the barriers between haves and have-nots. The haves sit behind very well-fortified walls with all the ancient hatreds ironed out by economic prosperity, and Swains white nationalists get a receptive have-not audience looking for security from the predation of others and scapegoats to retaliate against. Any way you slice it, the prospects for Western Civ look pretty dim to me at the moment.
Well, here's to hoping that my pessimism remains just that. A long post, and I'm a bit tardy with it. Feel free to correct me or rip me to shreds. :)
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