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To: putupon
"...making the incoming freshmen read the We Love Islam, Religion of Peace book or when Chapel Hell made the diner take down the "offensive" American Flag."

WOW...I hadn't heard about that!! Not that UVA's above and beyond some purty embarrassing PoliticalCorrectness...then again, we had a lotta DemRATS squawkin' on campus even when I was there in the early-80's (at the height of Reagan's prominence, no less). Fortunately, it's a big campus and it wasn't too hard to find venues wherein to avoid the IGNORANT DOLTS...LOL!! Plus, a little VirginiaGentleman helped make even the STOOOOPIDEST Lib'ral Punks tolerable.

FReegards...MUD

345 posted on 12/30/2002 7:33:06 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Cyber-Band
I'll be the first to admit that I'm a SilmarillionAddict and enjoy Tolkien's work here more than even "The Lord of the Rings", which I believe blows away "The Hobbit"!! So it'll be interesting to see how a Tolkien neophyte--BTW, how can someone claim "I’ve been a fan of fantasy since before I was a teenager..." and heve never read Tolkien?--perceives this work of genius.

"It's interesting that this evil is spontaneous—it merely "came into the heart of Melkor." We should also keep in mind that he is the "mightiest," the most greatly endowed with "power and knowledge." What do you think of how Tolkien puts a determinist spin on 'evil' when Ilúvatar proclaims, "And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined." So we end up with the sense that nothing is truly evil, since even when Melkor is at his worst, he's merely the instrument of Ilúvatar. And I’m pretty sure Tolkien doesn’t even use the word evil in this section. Peculiar—no?"

Interesting, but far from unique, IMHO. "Evil" is a direct decendant of FReeWill, and a conscious choice on the part of the evil-doer. The fact that Iluvatar proclaims that "...no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful..." is no different than the StarWars saga wherein Anakin Skywalker is created--divinely, apparently--by the need to bring "Balance to the Force", IMHO. For if there is no EVIL to be Vanquished, what need is there for Righteous Heroes?!

That said...let's bring this dichotomy back to the present day. How and why could such an inarguably EVIL Man such as Osama bil Clinton exist and rise to the highest echelons of World Power?! IMHO, it is so Clinton can be VANQUISHED by the Righteous!! Can there be any other reason for Der SchleekMeister's existence other than to see him DRAMATICALLY felled by the Goodness that is the essence of the Great American Experiment?!

I think not...MUD

BTW...RE-IMPEACH. CONVICT. DETHRONE.
DISBAR. DE-PENSION. DE-LEGITIMIZE.
INDICT. CONVICT. IMPRISON. DISCARD KEY.

346 posted on 12/30/2002 8:31:51 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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