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To: Republican_Strategist
I believe in abolishing income tax, the AMT tax, and so forth.

I have believed in abolishing the income tax (taxing production) for decades. In fact, the Bush administration has been working on simplifying the tax code as a prelude to a national debate on whether to abolish the income tax altogether and what other system of taxation should be put in its place.

Bush’s Education Bill was written by Ted Kennedy for crying out loud

Ted didn't write the parts that mandate testing and accountability with disaggregated reporting of results nor the parts that train teachers in real teaching methods.

Then why didn’t the President even fight the democrats on it? Did he lose his veto pen? [federalizing airline inspections]

He did fight it and did speak out against it. But knitting back the nation's wounds from 9/11 took precedent over making you deliriously happy.

Bill O’Reilly on his radio program uncovered that Bush made a deal with Congressional democrats not to go after Clinton and I think that was a tragedy, but of course you are in the dark on that.

Yep, I'm in the dark on that, even though I watch O'Reilly almost every day.

Robert Ray gave Clinton that slap on the wrist and Bush didn’t even remark about it.

Bush's strategy has gained Republicans control of the Senate, whatever you think about his decision on signing CFR and letting the Supremes sort it out or his decision not to stir up the recriminations pot and trade accusations and acrimony with the Dems over Clinton's past sins. Without this strategy, Republicans would not now have control of the Senate, which you are fighting so hard to throw away right now.
Could we pretty please just get the judges through before you demand Lott's head?

The Farm Bill symbolizes three key things: Socialism, Big Government, and wasting tax dollars. The farm bill will cost households at least $1,805 in higher taxes. The farm bill will cost households $2,572 in inflated food prices. The farm bill will provide subsidies to an already steady and thriving industry. The farm bill promotes further consolidation of farms. The farm bill censors information regarding the recipients of subsidies. There are a ton of other problems. You simply excuse this blatant waste of tax dollars by saying it is the “reason” we took back the Senate?

Yep, it worked.

My hero is Ann Coulter nonetheless.

I adore her.

You are right, I’m much more ideologically in agreement with say the Constitution Party.

You're right, I'm Right.

The Republican Party has become too infected by the likes of you,

You don't remember the Republican party of Eisenhower and Rockefeller, do you? You would call Ike a RINO and Rockefeller a liberal infiltrator, when he was probably closer to Teddy Roosevelt than any Republican you know.

prescription drug coverage, rather than opposing that socialist proposal….people like you embrace it. The only difference between you and a democrat is that they want it to be larger.

No, prescription drug coverage is a lousy idea but like the farm bill, it was the price we paid to win Florida in 2000. And yes, the Faustian pact allows us to cut the scale of what the Dems would have passed if Gore had won.

What you are doing is trying to accuse anyone demanding leadership and representation of being a purist and you want to purge the party to a point where it’ll really be no different than the DNC.

We have leadership. It's not what you want, but then you have admitted you are not a Republican at heart. It's what a majority of Americans want. Government of the people, not of the extremists.

As for the Democrats, they hate me more than you do. I believe in a strong national defense and saying the pledge of allegiance in schools. I am an NRA member and believe the Second Amendment is more important than any other part of the Constitution. I am pro-life. I believe X42 is a sociopath and committed rape and treason and perjury, among other more petty crimes, and would never have taken office in the first place in 1992 if people had not voted for pie in the sky and an chance to check under the hood and see the crazy aunt in the attic. And in 1996, I found out that when Lincoln said "you can fool some of the people all the time" he had no idea how very many people that was.

I close with some words of that RINO who infected the Republican Party, President Ronald Reagan.

"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it. "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.
"I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'
"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it."

Ronald Reagan, from his autobiography, An American Life

45 posted on 12/13/2002 4:50:03 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
I have believed in abolishing the income tax (taxing production) for decades. In fact, the Bush administration has been working on simplifying the tax code as a prelude to a national debate on whether to abolish the income tax altogether and what other system of taxation should be put in its place.

No, Bush hasn’t started any national debate other than trumpeting his flawed, piddly tax cut. He has made no mention of abolishing income tax.

Ted didn't write the parts that mandate testing and accountability with disaggregated reporting of results nor the parts that train teachers in real teaching methods.

Well, you say that, but President Bush says the opposite. Who am I to believe. You haven’t addressed the crux of Bush’s plan is empowering an unconstitutional department of education and increasing spending.

He did fight it and did speak out against it. But knitting back the nation's wounds from 9/11 took precedent over making you deliriously happy.

He didn’t fight it, he didn’t try to make a case to the American people, and he ended up rubber stamping it. And why do you think you can excuse his federalizing airline workers or having the government takeover industry just because Islamic terrorist attack America? Then your defensive mechanism really kicks it and you pretend like I just want him to make me “happy” because I demand leadership.

Yep, I'm in the dark on that, even though I watch O'Reilly almost every day.

Well, O’Reilly covered it on his radio program and on his television show, he did mention that several times, but you are in the dark.

Bush's strategy has gained Republicans control of the Senate, whatever you think about his decision on signing CFR and letting the Supremes sort it out or his decision not to stir up the recriminations pot and trade accusations and acrimony with the Dems over Clinton's past sins. Without this strategy, Republicans would not now have control of the Senate, which you are fighting so hard to throw away right now.

Bush has had a strategy of no leadership and he caves constantly to the Democrats and because that coincides with the republicans barely taking back the Senate, you pretend like that excuses abandoning principles. I don’t want my leader saying CFR is unconstitutional and then being too gutless to veto it. I’m glad to see you don’t care about Clinton selling pardons and Bush’s refusal to even prosecute it, you set such high standards for your elected officials. And you without any evidence you suggest that is why Bush won because he basically took a left turn and that exposes you for the RINO that you are. Maybe this is why the majority of America stays home on election day.

Could we pretty please just get the judges through before you demand Lott's head?

I said, “Republicans need to quit being all so willing to just call for Lott’s head on a platter and they need to quit trying to appease the racial sensitivity police with such preemptive actions.” Obviously you never bothered reading any of my post. We can get our judges and we can get judicial nominations. You are trying to create a false dilemma. Are those nominees going to be like Ashcroft pledging that Roe v.s Wade is the “law of the land?” The President also had harsh words for Lott.

Yep, it worked. So you think that is a rebuttal to my comments on the Farm Bill by just saying it worked? I guess you like higher taxes, higher food prices, and you just adore socialism because….it works according to you.

I adore her. You adore Ann Coulter, what a shock! She’s ideologically on my level and you say you adore her…what a shocker.

You don't remember the Republican party of Eisenhower and Rockefeller, do you? You would call Ike a RINO and Rockefeller a liberal infiltrator, when he was probably closer to Teddy Roosevelt than any Republican you know. Well, you have to go back a long way don’t you. I wonder why you skipped over Ronald Reagan? I guess you don’t like conservatives.

No, prescription drug coverage is a lousy idea but like the farm bill, it was the price we paid to win Florida in 2000. And yes, the Faustian pact allows us to cut the scale of what the Dems would have passed if Gore had won. I just love you unprincipled RINOs explaining to us that we need to propose socialism in order to keep the socialists from winning. You have plenty of excuses don’t you?

We have leadership. It's not what you want, but then you have admitted you are not a Republican at heart. It's what a majority of Americans want. Government of the people, not of the extremists.

No, you are a socialist my friend. You have no core beliefs and you are perfectly willing to embrace extremism like socialism because you think it “wins” you elections. You seem to think that my view, the founding fathers, about a small limited government adhering to the Constitution is extreme and that is the largest error in your logic. That must be why the majority of Americans stay at home when your sort of candidates are up for election.

As for the Democrats, they hate me more than you do. I believe in a strong national defense and saying the pledge of allegiance in schools. I am an NRA member and believe the Second Amendment is more important than any other part of the Constitution. I am pro-life. I believe X42 is a sociopath and committed rape and treason and perjury, among other more petty crimes, and would never have taken office in the first place in 1992 if people had not voted for pie in the sky and an chance to check under the hood and see the crazy aunt in the attic. And in 1996, I found out that when Lincoln said "you can fool some of the people all the time" he had no idea how very many people that was.

I believe in a strong national defense. You seem to create differentiations where none exists. I believe in getting the federal government out of the school, but you think believing in saying the pledge alone is good enough. I believe in abolishing all gun laws, do you? I believe abortion is unconstitutional, what about you? Bush’s father lost because he broke his promise and he raised taxes throwing 19% of the vote to Perot.

I close with some words of that RINO who infected the Republican Party, President Ronald Reagan.

No, Ronald Reagan saw the light and he came to completely repudiate liberalism where as you think putting an R beside your name and advocating the same things that reek of socialism in order to win is okay.

"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it. "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.

I think income tax is radical seeing how it is paramount to legalized theft and then people like Bush give $500 million for “AIDS in Africa.” I mean, id you believe that income tax or social security is basically theft, then how can you compromise you principles and agree to some theft. People like you need to be weeded out of the party.

"I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

FDR was a communist and he left a horrible legacy of government control.

"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it." Ronald Reagan, from his autobiography, An American Life

Problem is we are not getting beyond 15% of our agenda and you pretend like that is fine.
53 posted on 12/13/2002 6:02:05 AM PST by Republican_Strategist
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