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To: CIBvet
>>>I encourage the Senator to not give into the demands of racists who want to keep blacks on the Democratic plantation.

The Rev.Peterson is correct. Trent Lott should not step down. PresBushes remarks in Philidelphia today, slamming SenLott, were a total outrage and clearly was an attempt to pander to the liberal establishment, especially, America's black minority. Black America remains in the warm and cozy pocket of liberal socialism and will continue to vote for Democarts in overwhelming numbers.

This is politcal correctness and race baiting carried to the extreme. This isn't what winning the last election was all about. As a conservative, I won't condone the liberal elites making decisions for the Republican Party. If McConnell, Santorum, Nichols or Frist want to challenge Lott for the Majority Leadershipo position, okay. But it shouldn't happen because the liberal establishment has decided this is a good issue to parade before the American public. By blowing a minor incident into a federal case, the libdems are hoping to gain significant political capital and if Republicans allow Lott to be crucified, they will be sanctioning the actions of the liberal establishment.

17 posted on 12/12/2002 10:53:08 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
The problem is that Americans are taking the bait and making a big deal over what should be the biggest NON issue of the day. Let's face it; in the overall scheme of things, what Lott actually said is irrelevant.
145 posted on 12/12/2002 3:37:01 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Reagan Man
It is hard for me to express how we feel about this situation.

First, I don't think Sen. Lotts statements were meant to say he agreed with the racist policies of the past. They didn't.. he was simply trying to honor a man who has served our country longer than any Senator in our nations history (and was elected to office all these many years by HIS CONSTITUENTS).

It is the EPITOMY of hyposcrisy for the liberals and groups who alledge they speak for ALL people of color, to crucify Sen. Lott this way.

Where was there outrage when Sen. Byrd said there were "White niggers"? Where was the outrage when Bill Clinton gave a KNOWN Segregist the Medal of Freedom and smothered him with compliments just this past October?

So, I agree with comments that Sen. Lott should not resign because the BLACK Caucus says he must (Which is such a racists name for a group.. imagine a "WHITE CAUCUS").

I agree with both the Rev. Jesse Petersen, and Thomas Sowell on this.

Which leaves me in a quandary....

I would LOVE to see Sen. Lott step down as the leader of the Senate.. I've always stated on this forum that it would behoove the Republicans if he did. (I would much prefer Sen. Nichols from Oklahoma to be the leader, or someone who is of equal stature who we can respect as we do Sen. Nichols. Besides, isn't he right under Sen. Lott in the Leadership ladder right now?). However, He should NOT step down as his states Senator.

We have had a problem with Senator Lott for a long time. It started with his horrendous treatment of the house managers. (Guess you could say what goes around, comes around Sen. Lott). But I regress (can you tell I'm still smoldering regarding that issue, and actually quite a few other things that Sen. Lott did or DID NOT do when he SHOULD HAVE!!).


So, I'm torn with him stepping down because of "this matter".

I think his words were taken out of context. We truly believe that. But now he has put his own power and interests over the good of the President and the Republican Party by NOT stepping down. (I told you we were perplexed by this issue in that we would love to see Lott resign, but not neccesarily over this "particular" issue in that we feel it truly is a NON ISSUE!).

President Bush has been put in a difficult situation because of the hoopalah over this incident. I also think Sen. Lott KNEW in advance that President Bush was going to have to speak harshly regarding the matter.

So there is our delimma. We are torn between wanting Sen. Lott to STEP DOWN, and the timing of it and reasons for it at this time. It would be in the best interest of the Republican party and America if he DID step down. I just don't think this incident should be the "reason" for it. He has never had racist policies,..and his record should speak clearly regarding that.

If for some reason Sen. Lott is FORCED out of his leadership over this issue.. then we must start becoming more active in our outrage if a liberal should mis-speak.

Perhaps it is best if he does step down and quickly. Allowing this whole issue to be set aside. A new beginning (if you will) for the Republicans.

Though it has been our ferverent wish that he do so for a long time... it is the matter at hand that concerns us. He did not mean anything offensive regarding Americans of African descent at all. Where others, liberals, have been quite clear in their racial prejudice or support of people with segregist ties, that was not the case in Sen. Lotts statements.

I'm throwing out food for thought here,.. and btw, the fact that I'm discussing this does NOT make me some kind of traitor to conservativism. That is a ridiculous accussation that I'm seeing tossed at anyone who discusses this matter (and who are not in line with other/some conservatives views).

It would be ONE THING if Sen. Byrd was censored and expelled, or if Bill Clinton had been repudiated by the same liberals calling for Sen. Lotts head. The hypocrisy here is that they didn't speak up then, when the statements by Sen. Byrd and Clinton were OBVIOUSLY racist or praising known racists!!

Again.. just writing out food for thought here for the purpose of debate. I'll be interested to read what others think regarding my "mixed" emotions in this matter.

FRegards, Vets

149 posted on 12/12/2002 3:55:23 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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