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1 posted on 12/11/2002 3:56:23 PM PST by gubamyster
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2 posted on 12/11/2002 4:00:35 PM PST by gubamyster
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"U.S. Office of Personnel Management bragged that "preferred minorities" were vastly over-represented in federal employment. As almost all immigrants into the United States, both legal and illegal, are classified as "preferred minorities," recent immigrants will be over-represented in federal employment."

Go in any government office (starting with just about any post office, if you don't believe this.) When dealing with a public employee these days, you're lucky if they can speak english. We have three orientals at our post office who must have all just fallen off the boat. One doesn't have the slightest concept of our money system, and gets a bewildered look when you hand her a bill and she has to make change. (It's guaranteed that your change will in no way correspond with what you should have been charged.) The second speaks pigeon english but doesn't understand it when it's spoken to her, and the third doesn't understand the various postage classifications, and charges whatever she wants, regardless of what you ask for. Don't bother asking for the supervisor. He's worse than they are. Used to be a failed, worthless clerk, so they promoted him.

4 posted on 12/11/2002 4:09:12 PM PST by holyscroller
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They ought to clean out the Social Security number databases, it couldn't be all that tough to do with the computers we have now. All Social Security numbers should belong only to Americans who were born here or who came here legally and there would be ways to prove either case. Someone who gets a SSN as an adult should have records of legal immigration. It's a serious problem because many of our newer welfare cases shouldn't even be in the US and many immigrants have learned to purchase several identities.
6 posted on 12/11/2002 4:26:11 PM PST by FITZ
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7 posted on 12/11/2002 4:35:12 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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The United States cannot import tens of millions of Third World peoples, forsake assimilation, celebrate multiculturalism and avoid Third World mores. Once the United States has Third World immigrants as prosecutors and police, criminals will be able to purchase their freedom with bribes. Punishment will fall on those who can't meet the price of a bribe.

This is a wallop of a point, that to my knowledge, Roberts is the first to make.

There is no rational basis for U.S. immigration policy. What drives U.S. immigration policy is the soppy assumption that environment determines behavior. Soppy-minded immigration enthusiasts actually believe that the mere act of crossing our frontier turns the immigrant into an American and infuses the immigrant with American beliefs and habits. The immigrant becomes a law-abiding person in spite of everything his life has taught him to that point.

Actually, Roberts is not on as firm ground here as he was in the other case. One hundred years ago, the environment in the good 'ol U.S. of A. was utterly intolerant of the sort of behavior that is now encouraged of immigrants, legal and illegal. And in those days, you couldn't just show up and get a federal job; you had to pay your dues. Your children might have a shot at a federal job, but probably not, because (thank the Founding Fathers!) there were so few of them in those days. And by the time your kids or grandkids got such a job, they'd been inculcated with respect for their nation in school, and for the law, courtesy of a policeman's sap, if necessary.

9 posted on 12/11/2002 4:54:58 PM PST by mrustow
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100% true!
13 posted on 12/11/2002 5:37:04 PM PST by dennisw
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It's not immigration that corrupts, it's the welfare state plus unfiltered immigration.
14 posted on 12/11/2002 5:56:59 PM PST by Salman
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